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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-28 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4043 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4043 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on where you draw your AU line. "What if they all went to college together" is a different hook than "What if they were all 15 years younger and in the same college together right now!"

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It honestly doesn't seem like that much of a difference to me

but different strokes I guess

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If they went to college in the 90's then it's a massive difference.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
is it really?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Especially if it's slash. Student culture was different enough then that you'd have to do a little bit of research to write a good story.


But people today are lazy as shit and uninterested in anything outside their tiny pathetic bubble.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
cool, a Kids These Days rant, that's always fun

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I said people actually you fucking moron.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-29 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for the 90s but my mother was in college in the 80s and from what she's told me about it, there were most definitely some major differences in student culture. A lot of times, I don't think our generation which has grown up with the internet and social media etc really gets just how much those things have shaped student culture in the modern day.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-29 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think AYRT was arguing that college in the 80s isn't any different to college now. I think they were saying that a college AU is a college AU. Why would it being set in the present be an issue? Why would the reader expect an AU to be canon adherent about what era it's set it, when the whole thing about AUs is that they're NOT canon adherent.

If it's not your thing it's not your thing, and that's cool. I just don't think the specific criticism of modern-day college AUs for not being canon adherent makes sense in this context.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there's a big difference between 1) exploring what characters might have been like when they were younger, how they got to be the way they are today, and whether there could be any surprises in their past, and 2) de-ageing characters but maintaining the exact same personalities, mannerisms, tics, and often, inexplicably, similar levels of experience and knowledge as their older counterparts. The latter is also awkward if part of a character's backstory is something that happened when they were older, like the death of a child or military experience, but you're writing them at a point in their life where that hasn't happened yet.

DA

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there's a big difference between 1) exploring what characters might have been like when they were younger, how they got to be the way they are today, and whether there could be any surprises in their past

I wouldn't call that a College AU, though. If all you're doing is exploring what legitimately could have happened in the character's pasts, in accordance with canon, that's a backstory fic. It's only an AU if you change the circumstances somehow - such as having the characters meet in College rather than years later like they do in canon.

Once a fic is an AU, I agree with AYRT, it really doesn't make much difference whether there's one AU axis (the characters meet in college), two AU axes (the characters meet in college in 2018), or even more.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2018-01-29 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's all AU, but the only way it doesn't make a difference is if you don't read anything that's AU. If you do read them... well, most people have preferences. If someone wants to read an AU set in medieval times and all they can find are medieval fics where the characters are also psychic were-dragons, it's a bit precious to tell them that there's no difference because it's all AU.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2018-01-29 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
but the only way it doesn't make a difference is if you don't read anything that's AU.

That's your opinion, sure.

I read a metric fuckton of AU, and IMO it really doesn't matter whether your College AU is set in 1990 or 2018. Either way, it requires the exact same acceptance that, "Yo, this is not meant to be canon compliant."

Now if you want to add in, say, Vampires, then that requires an addition level of acceptance that, "Hey, so there's shit in this universe that doesn't exist in the real world." Or, if you want to set your fic in the 19th century, then sure, that adds in the additional level of acceptance that "this fic is going to be set in the past and things are gonna get historical up in here."