[ SECRET POST #4045 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4045 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 22 secrets from Secret Submission Post #579.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/RpFDT4f.png

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's more about the fanbase and what the anime fanbase is interested in than with SAO specifically

[(Anonymous)]

SAO didn't do anything to anime. The audience was already there. And there's still plenty of solid shows out there when you don't only watch the flavor of the month.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the nature of the game. Constant copying and borrowing, tweaking it here and there to make it just different enough. It's the Coffee Shop AU of anime!

[(Anonymous)]

SAO didn't do anything besides stand out as one of the better examples of a crowded genre. Gaming anime as has been around for a while. I remember watching hack//SIGN back in the early 2000s.

Japan basically was<.i> the whole gaming industry in the 80's, especially after the American companies crashed, I assume the manga and anime tie-ins would date back to at least then.

[(Anonymous)]

Aw I hate that I can't edit my anon comments. ;_;

[(Anonymous)]

It's kind of weird how no one seems to remember .hack

that shit used to be huge

[soldatsasha]

The anime AND the games were huge. It really is weird that they've been forgotten.

[spectrier]

Hell, G. U. Last Recode came out weeks ago and it's still barely on the radar despite doing well (I believe).

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I figured someone was going to mention.hack. Story-wise, I think there’s a difference between stuff like Log Horizon, where the game becomes real, and stuff like .hack or 1/2 Prince, where the game is still a computer program distinct from the “real world.” The latter tends to be more introspective about what “real” means.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, the whole "normal person from the modern day gets sucked into/trapped in an alternate world" trope has existed for literal decades. Fushigi Yuugi and Twelve Kingdoms, anyone?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

The 80s D&D Cartoons

Wikipedia says Andre Norton got there first with Quag Keep, although before then you had Witch World and Princess of Mars which did the same thing without the gaming theme.

[(Anonymous)]

The earliest inspiration for that in gaming is probably the Harold Shea stories by L Sprague De Camp and Fletcher Pratt, which started in 1940 and were in Appendix N in the original D&D handbook. Also Poul Anderson's Three Hearts And Three Lions in 1953.

But, I mean, if we're just talking about the basic idea of a normal person going into a fantastical otherworld, that's one of the oldest themes in fantasy and folklore (what with Faerie, the underworld, the echtra, fantastical voyages, etc, etc, etc), and it was just massively widespread in early fantastic fiction to the point that it's not really worth listing examples. Honestly, I feel like it's probably one of the more distinctive features of Tolkien compared to his contemporaries that he doesn't have any characters from our world or connections to it.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I think Quag Keep is credible as a first novel about mundanes trapped specifically in an RPG because formalized RPGs were not popular or well known before the 1970s. The Harold Shea stories (at least the early ones) and Three Hearts and Three Lions appear to be portal fantasies into literary worlds or alt history.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, sure, i was just responding to the "normal person from the modern day gets sucked into/trapped in an alternate world" element

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I don't remember Quag Keep as that good, although I was a teenager and probably didn't really grok Norton that much.

[(Anonymous)]

Well I was specifically referring to anime because that was what the OP was talking about in their secret, but yeah, it's nothing new in any sort of media anywhere.