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⌈ Secret Post #4052 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

How do you define a piece of media as "objectively good," though?

[(Anonymous)]

There are objective metrics to measure the quality of things like acting, writing, directing and cinematography. It’s how you can have graded classes on those subjects. Whether or not something is enjoyable is subjective. Whether or not it’s good, as in a well-crafted example of its genre, is objective.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, no. Um. Not at all, in point of fact. We can create metrics and rubrics and standards to judge the component parts of a film (in the same way that we can do for films as a whole). But that doesn't address the significant question. The significant question is not whether standards exist, it's whether those standards are objective - whether or not they're necessarily valid. Just having a metric does not mean that the metric is objective. And claims about the objective quality of acting are vulnerable to all the same criticisms as claims about the objective quality of films, or any other form of art. And it's very much an open question whether any of those things are objective.

Also, pointing to graded classes as evidence for the existence of objective standards for things seems like... really not a great argument. I mean, just, like, not fantastic. I don't see any reason that graded classes would be expected to be objective, and it certainly doesn't match my personal experience of the education system.