[ SECRET POST #551 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #551 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[poisontea.livejournal.com]

Well, to me, that would have also been at least part of the reason why it was necessary. In that case, people on our side still would have kept dying- even if not in great numbers- but hell, any country that's that desperate and still not even thinking of giving up needs a short, sharp shock. It was probably better for them to get those two bombs than for countless more to go to the front with spears and be mowed down that way.

Either way... it got them to surrender, and whether that was better for us or for them is debatable, but still.

[lanjelin.livejournal.com]

A short sharp shock? Are you serious? You really don't know the effects of those bombs, do you? Didn't you learn these things in school? We were taught about those bomds in fifth year. and the stories gave me nightmares. They are horrible, terrible weapons that never should have been created.

And using that sort of weapon against people with nothing left but sticks...

Simply doing nothing would have made surrender inevitable. Not to mention that they had no means of hurting the rest of the world anymore.

[poisontea.livejournal.com]

I in no way meant to make it sound so flippant, and I apologize for that because I see how it might have. I don't mean to belittle the effects. The effects of nuclear weapons are horrible, and last for so long after the initial drop, after doing horrible things to anyone caught in the radius...

I suppose it's that I don't believe that action was unnecessary. An action that would end everything right then. I don't believe surrender would have been inevitable if we did nothing; as you said, this is the country that was ordering its countrymen to the front with spears. Against machine guns and tanks. Just because they were losing didn't mean they'd give up, and while I can see not supporting a nuclear weapon drop because of how absolutely horrendous it is, the number of people it killed was far less than the number of casualties, both American and Japanese that would have happened before Japan finally crumbled... not to mention that Japan surrendered instead of actually crumbling, which is of course a good thing.

So it's not that the ends justify the means, because the means were flawed, but the ends and what would have happened otherwise certainly necessitated action.

But really the whole point of this is that, even if it HAD been absolutely necessary- if they were like... I dunno, using Hiroshima and Nagasaki to summon Elder Gods or something- the individuals who were involved were still living human beings who had lives, families, emotions, dreams, and futures. That's why even someone who's fucked up in the head enough to become a serial killer having to be killed is still a tragedy to me. Not that they shouldn't be if it's necessary, but because they were a human being who got that fucked up and then had to die- no future, poof, and everyone who loved them impacted- seeing a person fall that far is a sad thing. No matter how fucked up they get, they're not just a charicature. And implying that all of the innocent civilians, families, and children killed is not tragic simply because the action was a necessary one is extremely distasteful.