[ SECRET POST #4057 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4057 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No better than Trump? Seriously? I agree this celebrity president shit was a mistake, but Trump is a fucking unqualified clown. At the very least Oprah has charisma and you can respect her as a person. I wouldn't ever want to be alone in the same room with Trumplestiltskin.

[(Anonymous)]

They said that she would be no better than Trump in that specific respect, not in general. Come the fuck on.

[erinptah]

Eh, I still don't think it qualifies. Oprah has a ton of money and is far-removed from the experience of the average person, but if she can get even the faintest understanding of that experience through having basic human decency and empathy, she comes out ahead.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Not to mention, although she's been incredibly rich and powerful for a long time now, she still has had the experience, in her life, of being dismissed, undermined, talked over, and talked down to because she happens to be black and female. She experienced that a long time ago when she was first attempting to make it in the industry, and I would bet that in some minor ways she still sometimes experiences it now. Even though she's Oprah, I bet she still gets people who persist in talking to her like she's lesser because they can't wrap their heads around the fact that a black woman is so much more experienced and powerful than they will ever be.

Also, I recently watched a Hollywood Reporter round table with her and a bunch of other actresses, and she basically started by acknowledging herself as the least experienced actor at the table and saying she felt she probably knew less about acting than the others. My jaw kind of dropped. I mean, this was Oprah! I never would have imaged her being so humble. I felt so much respect for her, that as someone who had to fight hard for a long time to gain the power and authority that she has, she's still totally cool with acknowledging when other people may have more knowledge on something than she does.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally. I don't so much see that as being humble as I see it an acknowledgement of fact. Oprah's done some excellent, key roles in key movies, but that's not what she's known for and it's not her day job. Her career is not primarily in acting. It's like 5'3" me sitting down in a group of professional basketball players acknowledging that I'm not the tallest person in the room. I'm not being humble, that's just a statement of fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but it was mighty big of her to freely acknowledge the other women's greater experience. She didnt have to. It would've been easy for her to dominate the conversation. She had the most power, and is very good at speaking with commanding authority. She chose to put the others at ease, and she did it by acknowledging a genuine dearth of experience on herthe part (comparatively speaking). That shows a lot of candor, confidence, and humbleness imo. I'm not even an oprah "fan," I was just really impressed.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god, remember when she said as a child she was so poor that she had a cockroach as a pet?

[(Anonymous)]

Also, Oprah probably wouldn't get into twitter arguments with other countries.

[(Anonymous)]

You're reading it too fast, possibly because you're in a hurry to be outraged. The secret says that in one specific respect, i.e. being out of touch with what the average U.S. citizen's life is like. Context is important.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree on that point personally. Unlike Trump, she's been poor. She actually did earn her money through hard work. And she does understand what poor people go through because she's been there. So maybe being rich should automatically be a disqualifying factor. I don't know. But even on that one particular aspect she is not as bad as Trump.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true. Oprah grew up incredibly poor. But, she hasn't been poor for a very, very long time. She has a better grasp of what that's like than Trump does, but I think that 40+ year old memories of what it's like to live a hard life is not really a proper substitute for knowing how the average American lives right now.

But it's possible my skepticism about her perception of rich vs. poor comes from her "favorite things" giveaway which invariably includes ridiculously overpriced things and the fact that I once saw a show where she takes a road trip with her best friend and realizes that she no longer knows how to pump gas because she hasn't done it herself for decades.

[(Anonymous)]

True, but if we're using 'hasn't been poor recently' and 'out of touch with the average American' as something that should keep people from having the job, we're never going to get somebody with government experience to the job (also no actors).

There is no member of Congress or the rest of the federal government with that experience, because they don't have to worry about where their healthcare is coming from. If they're from Congress, they don't have to worry about their paycheck being hampered by layoffs, furloughs, or government shutdowns, because they get it anyways. It's ridiculous to think that in this day and age, anyone with the necessary experience and/or money is going to have that experience of being a poor person recently or that any poor person is going to be able to run for a high national office.

And lol, pretty of ordinary people don't know how to pump gas. Poor people in cities who don't use cars, older people who just never learned how even though they do drive and have to ask for help or go the gas station where they pump it for you, and wasn't there one state where ordinary people weren't allowed to pump gas until a year or two ago? I'll give you the favorite things giveaway, but pumping gas strikes me as being not the most important part of the average person's experience.

[(Anonymous)]

You still cannot pump your own gas in New Jersey or in Oregon.

[(Anonymous)]

Oregon actually literally just changed that this year, I think

[lauramcewan]

Only in certain areas of the state at certain times of the day.

[(Anonymous)]

Not as bad, but still not great.

On the other hand, not understanding what it's like for poor people is also a huge problem with the professional political class in general. So that specific criticism isn't just applicable to celebrity politicians, I don't think.

[feotakahari]

I was going to say that Trump at least hasn’t promoted faith healers. Then I remembered that Trump “spiritual advisor” who thinks prayer will prevent you from getting the flu. Let’s just say they’re both stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but, I mean, most people are stupid, and there's a quantifiable and enormous gap in the scale of their stupidity.