[ SECRET POST #4057 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4057 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I know these people exist, but I don't think they're nearly as common as people with actual triggers. And in the end, how can you tell them apart? And so long as they aren't being asses about it, should you not just give them the benefit of the doubt? People with real triggers are being disregarded as "special snowflakes", and while some of the blame does fall on oversensitive, ignorant people using a word that doesn't belong to them, part of the blame also goes on people like Anon's attitude towards it. People with mental illness aren't being helped by their constant bitching about whiny sjw who 'can't handle the real world'.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Seconding this so hard. I mean, I personally am not even looking for warning tags for more niche things. I'm arguing for a return to the attitude which used to be so prominent, that there are a few things which absolutely should be tagged for all the time, because they're general enough, and distressing to a large enough group of people, that it's just insensitive and inconsiderate not to tag for them.

However, if someone tells me something in one of my fics that I think is really minor is really distressing to them, I'll probably tag it because why not? It isn't hurting me or my fic any, and it's showing kindness and consideration to them.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

However, if someone tells me something in one of my fics that I think is really minor is really distressing to them, I'll probably tag it because why not? It isn't hurting me or my fic any, and it's showing kindness and consideration to them.

Doesn't doing this habitually run the risk of doing to more specific warning tags exactly what the secret is complaining has happened to the CNTW tag?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

No. Warning for things that upset people is not destructive to people's ability to find warnings for things that upset them, and I have no idea why you think it ever could be.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Because you said it was "something really minor" and that made me think of the emetophobia example another anon brought up. If everyone tags every fic where a character briefly gets nauseous (even if their nausea is only mentioned in one line and they never throw up) as emetophobia, then people who actually need to avoid fics with vomiting in them are shit out of luck because the tag has become meaningless and it's a toss up as to whether the alleged emetophobia warning in a fic they're clicking is referencing a throwaway mention of a character feeling nauseous or a graphic Exocist-style scene.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but this concern kind of reminds me of the "slippery slope" argument where like.. if we let gays marry then people will start wanting to marry their horse or whatever. I'm the anon with severe ptsd, and I write fic with some pretty upsetting content. I tag all the major triggers and all the major themes and plot devices, though not to an extent where I'd say it's spoilery. I think my tags are good enough for probably 99% of people reading, and so far have never had an issue. But if someone were to ever come to me wanting me to tag for something, then why not add it? This sort of request is so rare in the fandom spaces that I'm in. And if someone is asking for a tag, then it's probably not something so minor as "character A felt a bit queasy". No one in this thread is suggesting that every fic have hundreds of tags for every conceivable thing that happens. I think people are capable of understanding nuance, when something does or does not call for a tag.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I don't actually think that tbh, I just think it's weird that OP admits to covering their ass that way when it comes tagging while complaining about people who cover their asses with blanket CNTW tags. OP is doing this to be nice and is helping future readers, but people who CNTW "for no good reason" (that OP can discern, anyways) are doing it out of ignorance or laziness and ruining everything for everyone.