[ SECRET POST #4059 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4059 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

01. https://i.imgur.com/fSpiDmI.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Will-they-won't-they gets really tiring if it goes on too long.

[gelertcrumpet]

I enjoy it while it's running parallel to the central tension of the series, and feels important - but both when it's being intentionally drawn out for drama, or when the show doesn't seem to have clocked onto the desire for it and committed to the pairing (Castle and West Wing, respectively), there's the danger of me just running out of energy to care by the time the two of them finally get down to it.

[greghousesgf]

tension is overrated

[(Anonymous)]

I agree in general. The problem is that, if you do the will-they-or-won't-they too long, then by the time you end it, all of the air has already gone out of the show.

That's why more shows need to bite the bullet early and just get characters together quickly. First or second season.

[(Anonymous)]

Complete opposite here. Live for the tension, lose all interest when they get together.

[ninety6tears]

Same. It's not like I lose interest in an otherwise good canon once they get together, but there's a reason the story is usually forced to either focus less on the couple afterwards or focus on some kind of tension that still exists in the relationship - cause there is no story in a perfect happy couple.

[jadeile]

Same. It's also the reason why I generally only lowkey ship the main couple but hardcore ship something more obscure that isn't likely to actually get together - more enjoyable fanfics to discover both all along and after the series end!

[philstar22]

It depends on the show and how it works out. With Castle, it was good they got together and the show was as good or better when they did. Getting Bones and Booth together, though, ruined that show. Same with Castle and Cuddy.

[were_lemur]

I realize that "Castle and Cuddy" was a typo, but I think it could be hilarious.

[(Anonymous)]

They would have been so much better for each other than what we got.

[nightscale]

I don't mind will they won't they for a bit, but I will quickly get bored with it and will often loose interest before the main couple even ends up together half the time. It gets especially tiresome if the show gets the couple together for a bit and then breaks them up over and over in and endless jerking around cycle that just ends up getting irritating.

I like to see a couple navigating life together and making things work around whatever things are happening too, it's just far more engaging to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I love tension but most shows drag it out way too long. And then if the ship happens, it's usually poorly written.

I was a multishipper back in the day in the House fandom and should have loved the Huddy when it happened but it was years overdue and a train wreck in general. And this is coming from someone who loved seasons 4 & 5. I stuck with the show long after I stopped loving it and my love turn to hate and bitterness to the point I don't enjoy watching even the early seasons anymore because I can't forget what a dumpster fire the whole thing turned into.

I agree, sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

Though some writers are terrible at writing established relationships. Castle, for the most part, was good, except for the eye-rolling stupidity of the melodramatic delays of their wedding.

I don't know why, but it seems like a lot of the time, writers are better at relationships that are already established before the show starts. Or relationships for side characters, though I would guess that's because a lot of the development takes place off-screen and just gets mentions.

I did like Monica and Chandler's relationship on Friends, except for a few bobbles. I liked Olivia and Peter (Fringe).

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that I mind seeing people in love, making life work. But that's rarely what happens when the canon couple gets together.

[(Anonymous)]

It's true, but it's also really weird to me, because it doesn't seem like it should be impossible to depict

so why can so few people actually do it well

[(Anonymous)]

You're right, but I think the reason why it's so rarely done well isn't because it's impossible, it's because writers need something to replace the whole "will they won't they" tension. So now they have to manufacture more conflicts, as opposed to showing a happy couple succeeding at life.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Isn’t conflict the basis of storytelling?

[(Anonymous)]

I think OP is saying they disagree amd think writers DO do relationships well, once they finally get to that point.

[tabaqui]

I agree - the 'chase' and the will-they-won't-they are boring as hell, mostly because they invest them with so many cliches and tropes that they're just...bah.

But the romance stuff is usually not for me, either. I like very few relationships of the kind your'e talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

This is pretty secret that would have been even better tomorrow. Well-done OP!

[wannabe_influential]

I don't mind when they get together, in fact, I love seeing couples being all cutesy and stuff, but if everything that was interesting about them before they got together disappears and they end up becoming the "naggy woman stupid man" trope that is seen everywhere else, then that's really disappointing

[(Anonymous)]

In theory, this would be fine by me. In real life application, I don't know many shows that manage to actually do this well. Granted, I haven't seen any of the shows OP has in the secret? But a LOT of shows try to pull this off and fail to do it, so I think there's a very sound basis for disliking or at least being wary about couples getting together in canon. I'd say that there's probably a significant link between how big a deal the romance is in the show vs. how badly the show does after the "will they won't they" tension is resolved.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. The problem is that most shows feel the need to replace the sexual tension either with some other manufactured conflict between the characters, an external conflict that is usually awful (they’re happily married! Wait, now one has cancer!) or babies. I like babies, but not when they suddenly become the major storyline in a previously baby-free procedural. It’s not that most people hate watching happy couples doing their couple thing. It’s that most writers hate writing them, so you get this crap instead.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't care for the tension or the will-they-won't-they, but I hate the getting together thing even more. Why do there always have to be couples in the first place? Ollie and Felicity would have been so much more fun just working together.