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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-18 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #4064 ]


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Re: e_e

(Anonymous) 2018-02-18 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I certainly didn't see her doing it in a way that was enough like him to make me think she was acting like him.

It seemed to me like almost everything that she did in the entire movie was extremely Luke-like and Luke-ish, so I guess agree to disagree there.

Your second point, I also don't think she's wrong to reject something of the past but the way the movie went about it made it feel that she was rejecting Luke himself. She's not learning anything form him except that he failed. She didn't learn anything about his successes. Whatever she does from here on, it's on her. She has nothing to connect her to Luke. She's going to learn how to be a Jedi from a book.

I don't agree that she has to learn how to be a Jedi from a book. She still has her experience of Luke and the lessons from him and his example. And I think what's really important there is the fact that she had the chance to know him as a person. Rather than relying on this abstract legend of Luke Skywalker and the Jedi, she was able to see who he was and get a sense of his faults and flaws and also his strengths and wisdom. Even if they didn't necessarily see eye to eye. I just don't agree that she's not learning anything from him except that he failed. It's no more true for Rey than it was for Luke and Obi-Wan.

Re: e_e

(Anonymous) 2018-02-18 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
For your second, that's my point. She knew him as a person and rejected him.

Re: e_e

(Anonymous) 2018-02-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that she did reject him. Definitely not just because she left against his wishes (just like Luke did with Yoda).

Re: e_e

(Anonymous) 2018-02-18 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I never said it was because she left against his wishes. It was how everything played out. It clearly felt like a rejection. She was disappointed in him. I never got that kind of feeling with the Yoda/Obi-Wan/Luke relationships. I never felt that Luke rejected them. I very much feel that she rejected Luke.

Re: e_e

(Anonymous) 2018-02-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT -- Luke chose to go against Yoda's wishes, but he very obviously respected Yoda and took his lessons to heart. When he leaves, he promises to return and finish his training.

Now compare that to how Rey and Luke parted.