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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-19 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4065 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4065 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Grace and Frankie]


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03.
[Gillian Anderson]


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[Actress Martha Higareda as Kristin Ortega in Altered Carbon]


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[Supernatural S01E09, "Home"]


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[FX's Legion]


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07.
[Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey]


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08. https://i.imgur.com/846oK7X.png
[The Shape of Water; linked at OPs request, it's a dildo]











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(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Again, you cannot make an interpretation that isn't supported one way or the other by the narrative and claim it's canon. Rey went to go freaking help her friends, which is in character for her, and more of a logical explanation than "I've decided I will not fuck this man". There was no canon conclusion that she no longer wishes to help Kylo, or has emotionally rejected him - she just did not want to go along with his plans.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
She rejected his plans entirely, and rejected the idea of siding with him in any way as long as he remains committed to those plans.

That doesn't mean that she gave up on him entirely, no. But it was a major moment of choice for both of them, and he made his choice, and she rejected him because of the choice that he made.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-20 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Nowhere have I claimed my interpretation to be canon. I've provided an interpretation based on the events shown on-screen in the film.

For Kylo Ren, "emotional rejection" and "did not want to go along with plans" are one and the same. He want to reshape the galaxy because HE wants a clean break with HIS past. He's projecting all of the expectations put on his shoulders into a political manifesto. Rey's rejection of his manifesto is rejection of both his political aims and his emotional rationalization of the atrocities needed to get there.

Now of course, they could pull a 180 in the next movie with NEW scenes reestablishing the relationship. But as of the last frames of TLJ, she shut that door so there's no reason to assume their relationship is on good terms.

EDIT: And it's not like they had a strong relationship of mutual trust at any point in the movie.
Edited 2018-02-20 02:42 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
There's also zero actual romance in the movie between Rey and Kylo and still people interpret their every interaction as romantic because ~subtext~ which is always, always in the ymmv territory. There is no canon conclusion that any of their interactions are of a romantic nature.