[ SECRET POST #4066 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4066 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[liz_marcs]

I go two ways on this:

I can definitely see (and sympathize) with the "why should I tag anything" crowd, mostly because nothing else comes with warnings. Not books. Not newspapers. Not magazines. Not TV shows. Not movies.

On the other hand, in most instances, there is context around all that other media that allows the audience to determine whether they want to interact with it in the first place. In addition, in this streaming world, you can access reviews after the fact to determine whether your first instinct was the right one. Fanfic, by and large, really doesn't have that; hence, tagging as a kind of stand in.

As personal practice, I fall in the mushy middle. I figure warning for the big, common triggers, and tagging for pairing (or indicating that there's no pairing at all) and fandom if a perfectly fair ask and I'm more than happy to do it.

But beyond that? I'm not going to tag for every little thing. At some point ya gotta take your chances and I'm not holding your hand.

HOWEVER, what really annoys me is deliberately mis-tagging something just so you can stick it to another fandom faction. If you're gonna tag, and if you're gonna use tagging, PLAY HONESTLY.

[(Anonymous)]

Where the hell do you live that TV doesn't come with warnings? Anything that's shown on Australian TV that contains sex scenes, drug use, violence, coarse language, "mature themes", or any one of a bunch of other things will get warned for. They also warn if there's going to be images or audio of indigenous Australians who have since passed away, since that's a big taboo in a number of indigenous cultures.

[(Anonymous)]

DA but warnings on movies/TV aren't usually as extensive as warnings in fandom often are/are expected to be. There's an anon above upset because they read untagged animal harm in a fic, and I often get blindsided by that because it's not standardly warned for and I watch a lot of obscure horror movies so the information isn't always available on Does the Dog Die? or IMDB.

[(Anonymous)]

There was a huge shitty ball of wankery over the Shape of Water and trigger warnings and abloobloobloo over how "R" ratings don't mean anything anymore so why should someone ~expect violence~ which just--

There are days I actually wish more people got out of their houses.

[liz_marcs]

I can't speak for other countries, but in the U.S. on television they might give vague warnings about language, violence, or sexual situations for a series or even a specific episode within a series.

But, no. There really aren't any specific warnings. For example...a warning for "sexual situations" does not delve any deeper than that one phrase. It's applied equally to scenes depicting consensual sex (usually filmed hazily) and violent rape. The only way you *might* be able to guess what they mean is the context. If its a warning for a fluffy rom-com-like TV series, then it's probably consensual. If it's for Law & Order: SVU its probably rape.

Really, our TV warning system is...not the best.

Neither are our movie ratings. If there's on-screen sex in the movie, even if it's consensual and presented in a romantic light, it's practically an automatic R (adults over 18, or under-18 only accompanied by an adult). You're guaranteed an R if *the woman* is shown enjoying the on-screen sex (no, this is not a joke).

However, if someone gets their head blown off on screen in an orgy of violence, it *might* be an R, but could just as likely be PG-13 depending on the context (age 13 and up and be unaccompanied, 13 and under must be with an adult).

[(Anonymous)]

That's how it is in Australia too. AYRT is being deliberately obtuse.