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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-20 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #4066 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4066 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayrt, but your straw man was my actual reality when I was a teen. I didn't fit into the box assigned by my particular culture to women at all, and for years I believed and felt like it meant that I wasn't "really" a girl (especially with being secretly attracted to women). I had never heard of trans as a concept or any of this gender stuff, but I'm pretty sure I would have labeled myself trans or the like if I had. When I learned what gender essentialism was and that it was possible to be female without being "feminine," I stopped feeling like that and accepted myself as a woman. Gender essentialism is bullshit and I hate how the queer community now likes to force it on others under the guise of being open about gender. We are supposed to be better than that. It's the same b.s. that was foisted on so many of us against out will, we shouldn't be perpetuating it.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-21 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayrt, but your straw man was my actual reality when I was a teen. I didn't fit into the box assigned by my particular culture to women at all, and for years I believed and felt like it meant that I wasn't "really" a girl (especially with being secretly attracted to women). I had never heard of trans as a concept or any of this gender stuff, but I'm pretty sure I would have labeled myself trans or the like if I had.

How are trans people you had never heard of as a teen responsible for your adolescent gender identity?

When I learned what gender essentialism was and that it was possible to be female without being "feminine," I stopped feeling like that and accepted myself as a woman.

Few trans people are "gender essentialist" in the way you're using here, and most of them will fully support both your adult gender identity and the process through which you developed it. Trans people generally don't care if you're a masculine lesbian or bi woman. If that works for you, awesome. It works for 9/10 people who question their gender in adolescence, awesome. That leaves a number of us whose dysphoria is not resolved by trying to integrate stuff into "boys/girls do it too."

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That is not at all what that person is saying.