[ SECRET POST #4069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4069 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

i don't think "WMD" is a useful phrase to use in this context . cause, like, it's not a WMD. it's a dragon. calling it a WMD just invites confusion.

[(Anonymous)]

In the medieval world, a dragon is definitely a weapon of mass destruction. The only thing that MIGHT be a bigger WMD is wildfire. But that is like comparing an atomic and hydrogen bomb.

[(Anonymous)]

The reason that I have a problem with it is that WMD is a modern phrase and it's not entirely clear to me how to make sense of it in a medieval context. Sure, on a medieval scale, you could say that a dragon is comparatively a weapon of mass destruction. But does that justify comparing it to a nuclear weapon? Just because you call it a WMD compared to other weapons available to medieval people, does that mean that it has the same moral problems as a nuclear weapon or chemical warfare? I don't know if that's actually the case. It seems like a confusing analogy.

[philstar22]

I agree. And I don't think you can entirely judge a medieval sort of setting by modern morals anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

It is a TV show, you can. Or people need to stop whining about all the rape. It is something that happened in the past, right?

[philstar22]

Rape and WMD are two different things, though. I'm not saying you can't judge the morals at all. But judging a type of weapon in a fantasy-medieval setting? That's a stretch.

[ninefox]

the first arms control ban in history in the west was a papal decree banning the use of cross bows as dishonorable weapon in like the 1300s

medieval people were *perfectly* capable of recognizing that different kinds of weapons had different lethalities and different ethical dimensions

WMD also includes things like bio and chemical weapons, not just nuclear. including, like, napalm and other defoliants, or mustard gas. You don't have to kill x number of people or ruin a city in one go to count as a WMD, just be meaningfully different from other/common weapons. A dragon definitely counts as WMD.

[(Anonymous)]

I would never try to suggest that medieval people were incapable of recognizing different ethical dimensions.

Honestly, I think I might just object to WMDs as a category in general.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I think it's weird to call a sentient being a weapon.

[philstar22]

Yup. If you are going to make a comparison to something from today, I'd go with something like violent dogs trained to fight or something. Still wouldn't make a comparison to a fantasy creature. But at least it makes more sense than comparing a dragon to a WMD.

[(Anonymous)]

Dogs are considered weapons when used to attack.

[tabaqui]

I think so, too. It's not like a nuke, or biological or gas weapons. There is no lingering effect, no drifting of radiation for miles and miles, no children being born with...i dunno...dragon scales or something.

I just kills people in a truly gross and horrible and slow way.

And the opposing forces *do* have a chance of killing it, unlike gas or a nuke.

[(Anonymous)]

Machine guns were once considered WMDs. So were cannons (particularly the ones used by Germany in WWI). There are a lot of weapons today that are considered WMDs that won't have "lingering effects."