[ SECRET POST #4069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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09. [SPOILERS for Stargate Origins]



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10. [WARNING for possible discussion of nazis/genocide/etc]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #582.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I can’t even see the nuance there, for me it’s so overshadowed by the “evil space overlord” part. To counteract that much evil, he’d have to be so blantantly conflicted the narrative could drive it home with a mallet. He doesn’t seem to have any good qualities, not only is he never shown to be honorable or loyal or kind, he doesn’t even have any self-control.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't have to perfectly counteract the evil to create a nuanced character. You can even have a nuanced, interesting character who has no redeeming qualities at all.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

But the thing about OP's secret is, it's not defending having nuanced interesting characters. No one is against having nuanced interesting characters. The part that's controversial is not about whether the characters are nuanced; the question is whether they're ultimately relatable and sympathetic.

I totally agree that Kylo Ren is an interesting villain and an interesting character, but I don't think that he's relatable or particularly sympathetic.

[(Anonymous)]

Over-privileged white boy from respected family is sent to prestigious school where he completely fails to make good on his potential despite having obvious advantages, gets ahead by slaughtering the competition, never learns any self-control or respect for other people, keeps being offered second chances because of it, spits at said offers and still whines about how everyone is out to get him as he tries to take over the galaxy... he's Donald Trump except he inherited superpowers instead of multi-millions.

So, obviously some people find that relatable. Or they hate rebels enough to ignore the murder and whining bits.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, please. Was the subject not wanky enough for you already?

[(Anonymous)]

IKR?

[(Anonymous)]

Look, just because the group that Kylo Ren has the most in common with are "people who think middle-aged white guys are the real oppressed minority," doesn't mean you have to get all worked up over it. That's an important demographic, and it's about time they got representation in a Hollywood blockbuster.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, he’s more intelligent, has a slightly better brain-to-mouth filter, is more talented, and better-looking than Trump. But as far as core values or lack thereof go... yeah, basically. And yet, for all he’s a sith, he doesn’t seem to be much good at telling people what they want to hear.

[(Anonymous)]

He's also got better hair than Trump, but Trump's better at getting people to do what he says and also better at winning arguments. You know, it's fair to say that Kylo's got more raw talent than Trump, but Kylo really doesn't the Force that well.