[ SECRET POST #4070 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4070 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Futurama]


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[Cheers]


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04.
[Classic Hollywood cinema]


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05.
[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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06.
[Altered Carbon, Kristin Ortega]


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[Game of Thrones/ASOIAF (OP's note: more for the books, but the art was too pretty not to use)]











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Comments

[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/80CVb2z.png
[Cheers]

The correct one thus time

[(Anonymous)]

The fact "man slut" is a phrase but not "woman slut"

Just like "player" is male-oriented (and generally a less negatively conotated term)

Re: The correct one thus time

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. I've never heard man slut before and if someone said a guy were a man slut I'd think he's a slut for men, as in he likes dick a lot

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I hear it a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

This is cute and kudos for making a Cheers secret but this line of reasoning is sort of all over the place. I can say, "I don't understand why people consider 'bitch' to be a gendered term because MY definition blah blah blah..."

But I wouldn't say that, because I'm well aware that the rest of the world doesn't necessarily conform to my definitions for things.

[(Anonymous)]

You didn't need the bit where you talk about how you don't understand why people considered slut a gendered term

Just make a secret about how Sam Malone is a slut (because obviously he totally is) and it's fine but now this thread is just going to be people explaining that the term is gendered because obviously it is

I'm annoyed about this and I know it's irrational

[(Anonymous)]

Right??? Thanks, everyone. We get it. All of you explained it 10x now. Jeez.

[(Anonymous)]

IA but honestly most of the blame has to go to OP for phrasing it that way in the first place

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's James T. Kirk :-)

[(Anonymous)]

I've always thought of slut as a non-gendered word. Whore, on the other hand, felt gendered because we used to say man whore when referring to a slutty guy instead of just whore.

[(Anonymous)]

You've always thought wrong, then.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a word. If we can go about the place thinking 'literally' means figuratively, then we can ungender 'slut'.

[(Anonymous)]

Slut has always been a gendered insult, from the very beginning several hundred years ago when it meant "woman who is a careless, slovenly housekeeper" rather than "woman who has sex I don't approve of." It's becoming less gendered in casual usage in the modern day, but that doesn't change the fact that it originated as, and continued for centuries as, a gendered insult. It's still viewed more as a "female" term; if someone says "slut," with no context, nearly all people hearing it will default to assuming they mean someone female, because that's how it has always been used until very recently.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, thank you, it's nice to appreciated for one's accomplishments!

- Sam "Mayday" Malone

[greghousesgf]

this reminds me of the "womanizer/manizer" thing I was talking about earlier

[(Anonymous)]

Also butting in to say slut is very obviously gendered toward women. Sure, we try to use it for guys now, if we're not saying "man-slut", but the only times it ever sounds like it has the same bite as it does when talking about women is when you're talking about gay men... and usually in that feminizing insult kind of way.

There's just too much social history of lauding men who sleep around and shaming women who do. It'll never have the same impact for a guy, unless maybe we're talking about a gay guy.

[wannabe_influential]

I feel like men are more likely to be called 'whores' while women are usually called 'sluts'

Well, you're not wrong...

[(Anonymous)]

:D

[(Anonymous)]

I get where you're coming from, the first person I think of when I hear the word is my brother (even my mom calls him a slut) but I realize that most other people don't see it that way.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Do we need to bring back "rake?"

[tree_and_leaf]

But even then, rake had something that was at least a little bit dashing about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, rakes are dashing and dangerous. Lechers and tomcats don’t have the same “charming rogue” connotation, but all three differ from sluts in the power dynamics associated with the terms. Sluts are giving it up and rakes are taking it.

Because it has been gendered for a very long time

[(Anonymous)]

Also, it's sex-shaming. There's nothing wrong with liking sex, so I don't think people should a term that has been used to disparage women for such a long time (over 600 years).

Re: Because it has been gendered for a very long time

[(Anonymous)]

Late to this party, but as long as there are STDs and pregnancies, there will always be something wrong with liking sex with many strangers. Not to mention that liking sex but disliking human beings so much that you can't even manage to find yourself a steady FWB says that there's something wrong with you, emotionally.

[mrs_don_draper]

I'm late to this batch, but damn, I love this secret!!!!