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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-27 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #4073 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-02-27 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean. Honestly the entire movie should piss you off lol. Personally I just gave up on it.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-27 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"Gave up on it"? Lol.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-27 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They definitely laid the peaceful, mystical, one-with-nature stuff on pretty thick, too. But hey, that's not even the most historically inaccurate part of that movie.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-02-27 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
lots of Native American tribes made jewelry and other things out of gold before anybody white showed up.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
And she's portrayed wearing a necklace - not a gold one, but obviously she must have some concept of objects being valuable for decorative purposes, if she wears jewelery.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-27 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny that she wears a necklace and decorative trim on her dress, but gold? Crazy!

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
lol yes I just rewatched Pocahontas on Netflix and had the same thought- you’re wearing pointless glittery stuff right around your neck!

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really. Gold being valuable is just a social construction. Gold is just a rock, just because we overvalue this useless rock doesn't mean other cultures have to do it as well.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
... and yet, many cultures (including indigenous peoples of both North and South America) do because it may be just a rock, but it's a very shiny, pretty rock that can be worked into beautiful things. Much like they have done with copper, silver or various semi-preocious stones like jade, obsidian, agate, etc. Just because someone isn't European doesn't mean they don't understand the value of beautiful materials, or that they only prize things you can eat.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Disney Film Pocahontas in historically inaccurate shocker

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
You're right, that's really stupid. Most cultures have art and decorative items that serve no practical purpose. Certainly the Native Americans did.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
You should watch The New World
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2018-02-28 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more trying to make her culture ABOVE it rather than look stupid, but it's...yeah. People have liked pretty shit for as long as they had time to make it or could trade for it.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, the mystical pure natives that are one with nature and above petty human desires...

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
The only thing I remember clearly from Pocahontas is the "Colors of the Wind" part. The rest of it was hella boring.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
About the only accurate parts of this movie are that Pocahontas and John Smith existed. Everything else is pretty much BS. Then again, they couldn't have their hackneyed romance if Pocahontas was portrayed how she actually was, which was, y'know, twelve-years-old.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
But that wasn't what happened in that scene, what happened was that he described gold by color and that it came out of the ground so she assumed it was another word for corn, then he corrected her and she simply said there was nothing like that around here. That's... That's literally the scene.

+1

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
no one's going to pay attention to your answer because it doesn't fit their narrative but +1 for actually paying attention to what was going on in the movie

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
oh huh. i literally only saw the movie once as a child so i didn't remember at all. that's really inoffensive

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Not knowing what gold is doesn't mean she doesn't understand valuing things for symbolic or ornamental reasons. She doesn't know what it is simply because it doesn't exist where she lives, not because her culture doesn't care about shiny things.

Gold deposits are not abundant in the northeastern US. Long-distance trade networks definitely existed in North America, but I know gold is not something you see in the cultures of the upper-tier Midwest (copper yes, gold no), and while I can't speak to the northeast, I suspect it's a similar situation.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayrt and while I technically agree, I also feel the scene is trying to suggest a narrative of "pure, peaceful, one with nature" native Americans, which is a little annoying.