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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-15 05:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #557 ]


⌈ Secret Post #557 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
107. None of those phrases are even the least bit funny.

158. ... I really don't understand how you think that. I'd honestly like to know what makes it fun or interesting to you. I've always found it decent, but hardly exciting.

169. That's complete bullshit. Nel's really not a Mary Sue; she's a bit character who happens to be exceptionally strong, and that's the only trait that's been explored. She's hardly stealing the show and not upstaging anyone - and she doesn't fucking need a bizarre and abusive relationship to keep her from being a Sue. As if a shitty relationship is the remedy for Suedom.

sincere: DGM: Lenalee's back to the viewer ([bleach-shuuhei] sensei fails you)

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[personal profile] sincere 2008-07-15 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes thank you

It's true, Nnoitra doesn't need anyone to help him be a misogynistic rapist. But last I checked, Nel was a sympathetic character who can be both happy and impulsive, and sober and ass-kicking, and she did all that without him. I don't think she needs anyone to be anything. She was doing just fine before we found out she had a connection to him, and she'll do just fine without him. Being in love with Nnoitra won't make her a more complete or a better character. It'll just make her a masochist. :\

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Being in love with Nnoitra won't make her a more complete or a better character. It'll just make her a masochist. :\

Not to mention OOC...

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[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. She's a complete character on her own, any kind of relationship with Nnoitra would be just a part of that.

Again, this is a case of "I don't like this pairing/character so she's a sue"...

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
OP claims to be a fan, so I think it's more like "This character is pretty, competent and has big boobs, so must be a Sue."

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[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Could be... But if the OP likes her then why are they calling her a Sue? Ah, it's so complicated...

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I love Doctor House and he is still a Stu. I love Aragon from Lord of the Rings and he is still a Stu. I love Neuro from Neuro and he is still a Stu. I love Sora from Kaledio Star and she is still a Sue.

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
But Nel is not a Sue, what with not being anywhere near as infallible and unrealistic as, say, Dr. House.

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[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about House and Neuro, but Sora? Not a Sue. Not at all. For one, she's the freaking main character, of course the story is about her. And she has flaws, she's naive, she screws up, etc. She's not perfect at all.

As for Aragorn, despite my dislike for LotR, he's not a Stu from what I saw of him. By this logic Beowulf, Roland, Sigurd, etc. would also be Stus... which is just ridiculosu.