fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #557 ]

[ SECRET POST #557 ]

⌈ Secret Post #557 ⌋

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livelongnmarry - fandom auction type place! For a good cause.

doctorwhy - A daily webcomic featuring the life and woes of our favourite (tenth regeneration) Time Lord.

fandom_of_one - An LJ comm for obscure fandoms!

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Because members of fandom_wank would never troll a journal or shock! stalk someone on LJ! Perish the thought!

They're not supposed to. I'm not saying they never do, but it's not something encouraged by the community and is as a matter of fact addressed in the rules. Basically, IF members of Fandom Wank are proven to be going and trolling, they're not going to be members of Fandom Wank for much longer.

Scroll up there then. Apparently supposed members of FW are just fine with sharing locked material in posts of people they don't like.

Still, it's good to see a sane member of FW come forward. I was starting to wonder if the people here against Ataniell represented the majority mindset.

I like how people keep missing that I share flocked stuff in EMAIL AND IM. As in, not on journalfen, which would be a breach of TOS.

Idiots.

Oh yes, that's so much better. Do keep talking. You're just proving her point about FW being full of classless fuckers.

I'm not on fandom wank. Or did you miss the part where that's against the rules their and I'm doing this on my own time. I fully admit to being a backstabbing asshole, feel free to hate me. I just find it ridiculous that you keep blaming fandom wank for me, when I keep saying "Hi, I'm doing this for my own entertainment!"

Repeat after me: There is no conspiracy...

But if she finally understood that, life would be so much more boring, because she'd stop flailing about how much fandom wank hates her. No, fandom wank doesn't hate her, in general people poke her for the entertainment value.

So how did you hear about her or why did you even start going onto her journal? If you're not from FW then why did you start bothering with her LJ? There aren't any other places where she's openly degraded and mocked so your choices are limited.

There aren't any other places where she's openly degraded and mocked so your choices are limited.

LOL N00B

If you're not willing to say, then obviously it's not a very public venue. So I've little choice but to believe that you're lying when you say you're not from FW since that's one of the few public areas that bash and mock people.

LOL N00B

I'm sorry you don't pay more attention to metafandom wankery :(

LOL FATTY FANDOM WANKER

GO BACK HOME, TS.

I don't have too many people friended who haven't friended me back. That means I can read all your locked posts, too. And when I figure out who you are, I probably will make a point to do so BEFORE I defriend you. I'm not low enough to include the information in the post where I expose you or to share it with other people. But I won't forget it.

Edited 2008-07-16 06:03 (UTC)

I'm not that mouse, but I would like to point out that LJ has these things called filters...

The anon is probably just winding you up, though.

I use filters (in part because not everybody on my flist wants to hear about weight loss, or religious stuff, or the RPG) but in fact, flocked material has been repeated to me by people who I know were not on my flist so I know there is someone out there sharing stuff.

And the existence of filters doesn't justify that. If I don't have my purse locked up in a drawer it's still wrong for my co-worker to take five dollars out of it. Not that she would.

But if this anon has half a brain she probably is using filters herself. Which is smart. Because I will eventually find out who's doing this, even if it's not above anon.

I never said I liked Ataniell, just that I wouldn't troll her.

I meant that I'm glad you don't hold a petty grudge against her as most people replying here from FW seem to have.

Of course we're fine with it. It makes the mass bannings when the mods crack down and point out the rules so much more amusing. Even better is when the idiots thought that they were safe because they were sharing exclusively via email.

http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/165562.html?thread=60149434#t60149434

The problem that I have with this FW "policy" is that they all troll anonymously.

Every time that I've ever been mentioned on FW, I've had to turn off anon commenting. No way of proving it's them, but finally I just left it off.

I don't know who the person that posted the comment I linked you to is. There's no way to find out or prove it.

But basically taking people, linking to their posts and pointing and laughing is GOING to lead to people going over there. It's unavoidable. You can't say, hey look at the monkey and not think someone is gonna go over there and try to play with it. Human nature.

And since FW enjoys wankers and watching people who are irritated and at the end of their rope freak out and say crazy things because of the dogpiles, they basically make this rule and say they discourage trolling, even though it wouldn't be happening if they didn't do what they do and they totally enjoy the results.

They don't "all" troll anonymously, unless by that you mean that "all" Fandom Wank members who would be inclined to troll do it anonymously. I have sympathy for someone who's being trolled or having secrets made about them, but you really have to stop acting as if FW is the cause of all problems. They enjoy watching wank, but that doesn't mean most of them participate. It's a huge community and you can't assume all the members will act the same way.

I don't see how creating the environment that fosters this behaviour by calling people's attention to things they might want to troll and reporting upon the subsequent trollage in great detail equals NOT being a significant (though not the only) cause of resulting problems.

This is that earth logic stuff they talk about on Fandom Wank. But rarely seem to use, in situations where the resulting logical conclusion might be that what they're doing is wrong. Which it is.

It's not the cause of all problems. It's got nothing to do with global warming, the war in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina or the abysmal lack of response thereto. But in terms of the poisonous social environment of internet fandom? A lot of the shit rolls downhill from there, whether you want to admit it or not. F_W is one of the places internet/fandom n00bs go to and start thinking it's cool to be nasty--because people will like you for it!

Dude, I went to a social event two years ago. It wasn't even a fannish party--it was actually the wake of a fairly close RL friend and it was held at the HQ of a religious organisation that we had both belonged to. Someone asked for my LiveJournal and I told them what it was. Across the room some complete stranger says to me, "Wow, you're really nice! Nothing at all like they say on Fandom Wank!" (Man, there's nothing like hearing some crazy shit from F_W at somebody's funeral.)

I shit you not. I know that as one of the anons in this conversation said, "you're not as famous as you think you are," and thank G-d for that, but shit like this does happen to me. And to lots of other people.

F_W is a shit-disturbing community that exists for the purpose of inflicting public humiliation on people who care "too much" about fannish stuff--and very occasionally, criminals like Victoria Bitter. But the Victoria Bitters are far outnumbered by the fairly innocent people out there who just happened to care a lot about whether two people got together on a TV show or something.

Edited 2008-07-16 05:46 (UTC)

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