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I am aware that modern churches are edifices built primarily on coal-fired bullshit.

'The only god' and he can't even breathe on land? These were not sophisticated times.

When you obtain the ability to see the sheer incomprehensible vastness of the universe beyond a narrow triumphalist worldview, and a working knowledge of the history and theory of science and philosophy, you'll understand why I dismiss so-called 'strong atheism' as so much hubristic self-centredness.

And when you stop relying upon anecdotal evidence of individual idiots, and read something that explains the true purpose of prayer (hint: it's not a wish list), and become familiar with the theoretical grounding behind the pronouncements of your Polkinghornes and McCabes and Mertons and Radcliffes, and actually get some grounding in religious theory beyond the useless theories of the fundamentalists and atheists enthralled to the same tiny God, maybe we can get somewhere.

I think you have an excessively narrow definition of 'evidence.' Anselm destroyed this definition (and all formulations based upon probabilities) with a logic bomb a thousand years ago. Then Kant took out Anselm's arguments until Godel was able to rebuild them mathematically.

The flying spaghetti monster was funnier when it was called the invisible pink unicorn, though not by much.

I think that assuming your senses are automatically accurate without cross-checking them against the accumulated philosophical and theoretical formulations of human civilisation is extremely hubristic, YES, actually!

Stop saying '[my] god,' it's making me nuts.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, THE COURTIER'S REPLY IS UTTER SHIT! If you are going to argue against anything YOU SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW WHAT PRECISELY YOUR OPPONENTS ARE CLAIMING!! Otherwise you end up looking like somebody who didn't even bother to do any research at all into what precisely religious people think God is and what reasons they have for believing in Ver. PZ Myers, Richard Dawkins et al are an embarrassment to intellectuals in general and atheist intellectuals in particular. I defy them to debate somebody like Radcliffe or McCord Adams without resorting to cheap rhetorical tricks derived from Hans Christien Andersen stories. I could use a laugh.

Wow. If the topic angers you this much, perhaps you should take a few steps back before replying and come back to it after you've calmed down a bit.

If you are going to argue against anything YOU SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW WHAT PRECISELY YOUR OPPONENTS ARE CLAIMING!!

What, precisely, are you claiming? All you've basically done here so far is thrown around names and capslock!rage.

You know you can't actually *convince* someone to believe in God through logic, right?

You can't convince anyone to come over your point of view through logic, period. The only thing you can do is present it as best you can, and let them decide for themselves.

Our FATHER who art in HEAVEN.

Sky daddy, in short.

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