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⌈ Secret Post #559 ⌋

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144. Sexism sucks hard all around, but in fairness I don't think I would call Skala a matriarchy. It's a patriarchy with a line of religiously-ordained female rulers; most of everyone else in power is male, families are centered on the father and children take their father's names in most cases, and men dominate the professions. Women have more freedom than in many patriarchies in Skala, and this is implied to be because of the queens, but having some freedoms while most positions of power are held by men does not a matriarchy make (look at our modern society). Heck, Skala isn't even matrifocal outside of the royal lineage. There's no religious tradition justifying the inferiority of men other than ILLIOR SAYS SO, as opposed to BITCHES SUCK AND NOW YHVH WILL TELL YOU WHY. There's no internalized self-hatred on the part of men, no glass ceiling other than royalty. Did I mention that men are still the head of the household?

You want a matriarchy? Read Melanie Rawn's Exiles series. Admittedly not my cup of tea because it's slowly paced and light on action, but it's one of the most realistic, well thought out matriarchal societies I've ever seen portrayed in fiction (usually they are patriarchies with women in charge, lol things don't work that way). To a point that I must admit to a guilty MUWAHAHAHAHAAH or two whilst reading it, which I justify to myself on the basis of their being patriarchies that still exist today that make their treatment of men look downright enlightened. But women run the household, women inherit all property, hold all positions of power, dominate professions, men who cheat are divorced and ruined but wives can have as many lovers as they like - and society and religion will tell you why this is the natural order of things.

152. Same. I love them even when they suck, because the fans are the best in the league.

160. Already? Really?

Hmm, good point. I thought on first reading that the patriarchal stuff depicted in the Tamir trilogy (haven't read the other one) was started by Erius, but on further thought it wouldn't make much sense to have such a complete turnaround in such a (relatively) short period without some cultural groundwork already laid out, would it? I guess I mentally jumped from "ruler has to be female" to "matriarchy" (I also guess that while I'm at college I ought to sign up for a course on these things sometime).

Still, my knee-jerk reaction to "No boys allowed (at least not this high up) because Illior says so" is "And why is that?" I mean, is Illior really big on affirmative action or something? :)

My answer would be: CHEAP PLOT DEVICE, but if you want a justification other than from the author's perspective I can't give you one. And I don't think she could either, since she defaulted to GOD SAYS SO.

I was hoping that the series would demonstrate that Illior's sexist shit was all retarded, but the series went in quite the opposite direction; having queens does make everything better! (Magically.)

Ah well, like I said, give the Exiles series a read, or at least a look, because THAT is a matriarchy.

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