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an opinion on every UK prime minister from Gladstone to 1990

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Thatcher - fuck Thatcher.

Callaghan - obviously, totally ineffective, which makes it hard to appreciate any good qualities he might have had.

Harold Wilson - very good politician. Generally lacking in conviction or morals, but a phenomenal instinct for the popular elements of politics which you have to respect on some level.

Ted Heath - such a weirdo. Probably the last major representative of the One Nation, Churchillesque conservative line, and really didn't have the imagination or political instinct to pull it off, but he really tried.

Alec Douglas-Home - a political nonentity.

Harold MacMillan - an impressively, shockingly competent, and effective, and ruthless political operator. A harmonious administrator.

Anthony Eden - a man out of time. A deeply aristocratic politician who only cared about foreign policy for his whole career, committed to maintaining Britain as an empire, a la Grey or Salisbury, but at a time when that was no longer possible.

Churchill - he was Churchill. An asshole, a terrible human being, an adventurer in the worst sense, one of the great parliamentary performers ever, one of the last people who could have an impact as a politician solely by his performances in the House of Commons, and he was undeniably the best politician to run the War.

Atlee - phenomenal Prime Minister. So knowledgeable and intelligent and just a master of any subject he turned his mind to. Dry but forceful and deeply moral.

Chamberlain - fuck Neville Chamberlain. His reputation is mud, and he's still overrated. Personally unpleasant and arrogant, committed to totally wrong courses in foreign policy and forced them through against opposition, and probably was on some level sympathetic to the Nazis at least as a bulwark against Communism. Fuck him and fuck his daddy too.

Stanley Baldwin - a much more effective politician than Chamberlain. Probably had a lot of the same beliefs but gets away with it because of when he resigned. But a totally ruthless, brutal, pragmatic political operator much like Wilson.

Ramsay MacDonald - an idealist and romantic. Pretty useless against a politician like Baldwin but, you know, he probably inspired a lot of people and the rest of that, I guess.

Bonar Law - total nonentity.

Lloyd George - obviously, a phenom with enormous self-belief, enormous moral convictions, and a real fighting spirit. I respect him a lot. Even if he was so pugnacious that he wasted a ton of time fighting people on his own side needlessly, and also kind of destroyed his political party in the process, you can't help but like the guy.

Asquith - again, very likable. Also, an alcoholic. Competent personal manager of a really impressive cabinet. Smooth talker (relative to his time).

Campbell Bannerman - really underrated. Combined a capable fighting spirit with real, deep-rooted convictions and beliefs. Slightly old-fashioned, maybe, but in a way that gave him a real integrity and self-possession. Great fella.

Arthur Balfour - garbage. Trash. Second-worst prime minister after Chamberlain. Completely supercilious, useless aristocrat. Totally fucked up his whole party over Joseph Chamberlain's tariff reforms. Just did not have anything close to the ability to deal with it. Dickhead asshole.

Salisbury - probably a dickhead. But he had a real sense of himself and his beliefs, and although they were very cynical, grim beliefs, they worked well in foreign policy, which was all he cared about.

Rosebery - useless arrogant aristocratic prick. Fuck Rosebery.

Gladstone - what can you say about Gladstone? A total zealot and true believer, whose political convictions underwent several seismic shifts through the course of his career. Personally very weird, but an extraordinary performer in the Commons, with an intense certainty in his convictions, and a unique ability to think through and grasp extremely detailed conceptual structures. What he believed often sucked ass, though.

Re: an opinion on every UK prime minister from Gladstone to 1990

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm...I'm kinda stuck on the fact that you guys had a PM named "Bonar Law."

Re: an opinion on every UK prime minister from Gladstone to 1990

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
That's pretty much the most noteworthy thing about him!

Re: an opinion on every UK prime minister from Gladstone to 1990

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Lmao same

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