[ SECRET POST #4097 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4097 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Steven Universe]


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06. [WARNING for possible discussion of non-con and gore/body mutilation]

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #586.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Yes, but if you're a fan of the show, you're in "fandom" by any reasonable definition of the term. Especially if you're submitting secrets about it here.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

But there is clearly a colloquial sense of the word "fandom" for which this is not true. IMO it is entirely reasonable and normal to use the word "fandom" to talk about something along the lines of "people who go out of their way to talk about and engage with the show and identify as part of a social group built around it". That's a way that - it seems to me - we use that word all the time. It seems pretty straightforward how I might talk about being a fan of X-Files if I watched it every week when it was on, and at the same time say that I was not in the X-Files fandom because I didn't post online about it or write fic, or engage with the show in any other way, except watching and enjoying that way.

That's obviously not the only sense of the word, but it seems pretty clear from context in this instance. And just being on f!s doesn't really change that - you can quite easily be in a fandom for one thing that you watch, and not in the fandom for another. I'm a little baffled by what you're driving towards.

[(Anonymous)]

Pedants gonna ped.

[(Anonymous)]

I think cbrachyrhynchos is generally reasonable / worth listening to, and probably wouldn't bother asking what they meant if i didn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe someone hacked their account.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

But there is clearly a colloquial sense of the word "fandom" for which this is not true.

Colloquial in what sense? Because as much as fanwork creators like to think the fandom universe revolves around their particular hobby, it really doesn't. And there are plenty of people who (to pick on an office favorite) obsessively follow each and every bit of Hamilton or Beyonce trivia to discuss it at the drop of a hat in the breakroom. It's pretty silly to say that the woman spent part of a morning networking with family to find a cousin with a citicard so that she could get concert tickets isn't part of a fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It would be silly to tell her that she isn't part of a fandom, but I don't think she would be silly if she didn't self-identify as being part of the fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

(anon who made the post that cbar was replying to)

I would say she might be "in the fandom" in one sense, and not be in it in another sense, because it's not necessarily something that has one particular and precise definition. It's a word that can mean a lot of different things. Multiplicity and that kind of thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Colloquial enough to be comprehensible to people who are around or in that particular social milieu. Which those of us here pretty much all are.

I'm not saying that this particular way of engaging with media is universal, or better than any other way of engaging with media, or anything like that. I'm just saying that I think it is one distinctive mode of engaging with media, and it has a vague and amorphous but nevertheless existing social sphere around it, and we can talk reasonably about that as a thing without thinking that it's the only definition of fandom that it exists. And I think that this was a reasonable and understandable use of the term fandom given the context.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. They mean they love the show but aren't involved -in the fandom-. They aren't involved in the social aspect of the media that we call fandom.