[ SECRET POST #4106 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4106 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Because it is fucking social media so they show shit that is just friends of friends of friends. Or trending. Or whatever new metrics they are using that day.

[(Anonymous)]

OK, so then which of the 578 people that she follows on Twitter were liking the tweet in question so that it would show up on her feed, and why does she follow those people

[(Anonymous)]

It's almost like she might not know every single thing about every single person she follows, or something?

I mean not to defend her, because she does defend some shitty pieces of work (like... Johnny Depp) and has a habit of blocking people on Twitter who disagree with her, but y'know. It happens.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know man, could have been someone who mostly just posts funny shit. You have never followed someone (or been friends) with someone who seems cool until that one time they do/post something shitty?

[(Anonymous)]

Or she could have been following someone who was criticizing the tweet, and she accidentally favorited the wrong thing while viewing the full thread. It happens to me sometimes... though normally I immediately notice. And normally it's not favoriting the wrong political tweet, it's favoriting the wrong "the signs as..." meme or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

It's possible. I'm not saying it's not possible. But it does require another layer of explanation and complexity and makes it just a little harder to believe, you know.

[(Anonymous)]

no it doesn't. You sound like a crazy person.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, what can I say to that?

[(Anonymous)]

+1 jfc

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe if you have a twitter follow list in the low double digits, but most people who have several hundred people friended do not, in fact, do an in-depth search of those people's histories to see if they have ever said or retweeted something offensive before adding them.

At most, they skim the most recent few tweets to make sure there isn't any porn or outright batshit fuckery.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying that JKR should have a PI investigate everyone she follows on Twitter but I also don't think that she's willily-nillily adding everyone who makes a funny Spongebob meme, you know?

I'm just saying that I don't know what's the truth, but I'm not inclined to take "she favorited a tweet by accident, and she only saw the tweet because some people she followed liked it, and she didn't know that those people were transphobic and only followed them because they were funny" as the 100% certain gospel truth.

[(Anonymous)]

No, that pretty much is what you're saying.

Anyone who has 500+ people followed is not intimately familiar with each of those 500+ people. They add them because they've passed through the same sphere a few times, or encountered each other IRL and swapped Twitter names based on a specific interaction, or sure, that person makes the best damn Spongebob memes on the internet. They might skim a few recent tweets to make sure nothing truly hideous jumps out, but following someone on Twitter is not something that takes a lot of thought.

Her saying it was an accidental favorite (which is a thing that happens, especially on mobile) may or may not be damage control. But you insisting that her seeing the tweet in the first place means she clearly supports that particular transphobe because anything other explanation requires convoluted conspiracy theory gymnastics makes you sound like someone who hasn't touched social media outside of Livejournal and Dreamwidth since Facebook still required a college email address to make an account.

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone who has 500+ people followed is not intimately familiar with each of those 500+ people.

That's true for me but I'm not sure that JK Rowling uses Twitter the same way that you or I do. I would assume that she's not using the same criteria that I am to follow people, and is much less likely to follow randos that she doesn't know than I am. Maybe that's an incorrect assumption, I don't know, but I don't think you can necessarily assume that what is true for me on Twitter is exactly the same for JKR.

But you insisting that her seeing the tweet in the first place means she clearly supports that particular transphobe because anything other explanation requires convoluted conspiracy theory gymnastics

I'm not insisting that she's definitely a transphobe, and I feel like I've gone out of my way to make it clear that I'm not insisting on that. I don't know what happened. I'm uncertain. I think that the explanation given is a little dubious and could easily be damage control, but it could also be true.

I'm skeptical of her explanation and I don't trust it. And if things like this keep happening, I think it would start to become strong evidence. All I'm saying for now is that I'm reserving judgment on the matter and I don't consider the explanation entirely satisfactory and trustworthy like some other people seem to.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just an incorrect assumption, it's a frankly ridiculous assumption. In-depth research of someone's Twitter history is a timesuck that just isn't worth it for the vast majority of people. If that's true for you and I, internet randos, it's going to be even more true for someone who's got the degree of exposure that a mid-level celebrity would have. She has a million other things to do. In-depth Twitterstalking isn't going to make that list.

[(Anonymous)]

My expectation is not that she's going to do more in-depth research about what people post on Twitter than you or I do. I think she's not going to follow Internet randos in the first place. My assumption is that most of the people that she follows are going to be people that she's personally or professionally connected to in some way, and probably on a level that's more than meeting at an afterparty once or twice.

Again, I don't know for sure, maybe I'm wrong about that, which is another reason that I'm not insisting on any definite conclusion.

[(Anonymous)]

I sincerely doubt she's personally or professionally connected to all 500+ people she follows on Twitter in a significant way. Most celebrities aren't. It's a publicity platform for them, and interacting outside their usual circle boosts their reach.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't personally think that 500 people is that many people to follow on Twitter especially for someone who's been on it for 9 years at this point. If she was following a ton of people she didn't really know I'd expect her to have way more than that especially if it was purely for publicity reasons.

But again, who of us really knows

[(Anonymous)]

Wat, I follow 63 people and I still miss 90% of tweets. Twitter doesn't show everything in your feed. Even the people I have notifications set up for it doesn't send me the notifications.

Imagine following 500+ people and expecting that you didn't miss that one asshole tweet?

[(Anonymous)]

Blah. We're like 3 layers deep in this conversation now so this is tricky.

What I'm saying is not that JKR sees every tweet. The original question was "why did she follow someone who liked that tweet in the first place". Some people were saying that maybe she just followed whoever it was because they were funny and didn't know much else about them. I don't think that's very likely, because I think probably most of the people that JKR follows are people she knows at least to some degree. So - if it's true that liking the tweet was an accident, which is her explanation - that still very likely means that she chooses to follow and interact with other people who are transphobic and go around liking extremely transphobic things, and either is unaware of it or doesn't mind it, especially since this isn't the first time this has happened IIRC. And that's still not intrinsically evidence of anything whatsoever. but its part of the point that OP was originally making to start the thread, and it makes me dubious of JKR and where she's generally coming from with stuff like this, and less inclined to assume it's totally meaningless, and less inclined to cut her slack in the future.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't speak for JKR, but that is exactly how it goes for me on any social media. I consistently follow a huge number of people, and a quick search through recent tweets/posts is the only way I ever "vet" someone. I'm not trying to say my experience is exactly the same as JKR's, just saying I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[tree_and_leaf]

I dunno, I've followed a bunch of people who have slowly revealed themselves to be massive transphobes, even though they were also funny, interesting, and otherwise progressive people (Hadley Freeman, I'm looking at you in great disappointment). I've unfollowed as I've caught it, but I'm not on Twitter 24/7 and I don't read through people's timelines to see everything they've ever posted....

I don't think JKR following someone who subsequently turned out to be a transphobe is any less plausible than 'accidentally liking' one of their posts - if anything, it's somewhat more so.