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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-02 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4107 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4107 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Full offense, but the actors in Stranger Things and IT have mentioned they know of fandom and read fanfic. Can you even consider how creepy it would be for them to find fanfiction written by adult women over them having sex, at the age of

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
-12? Could you try considering this when you make endless posts spouting how harmless pornfic is of real child actors? I don't care about porn of, say, the South Park kids because those are actual fictional kids created by adults. But that same reasoning cannot apply to characters played by 3D child actors. The wall between fandom and celebrities is non-existent now, there's a high chance they'll come across something like this if it continues on. If you're gonna write smut about these characters, age them up ffs. There's no excuse to write porn of them as they are now.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
A fic is nothing but words. Children don't get hurt by it's production. A fic doesn't force the actors to magically act/live whatever was written.

Now, fans shouldn't show any of those fics to the actors, and the actors can stay away from some parts of fandom, or at least the NSFW parts of it (which, they should stay away from in the first place if they're minors)

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
https://archiveofourown.org/users/brbgettingwine/pseuds/brbgettingwine

Fans shouldn't be writing this shit, period. I can't believe there are people trying to insist there is nothing wrong with this.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
why are you linking to this and giving it more attention/hits???? seriously wtf

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
There's gross shit out there, but since it's fictional its very existence isn't harming anyone (except, maybe, people like you who look for it to have an excuse to feel indignant), and as long as they aren't showing it to other people unsolicited and it has proper warnings, it's not wrong.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

1) That's different. The issue there is a matter of access to the fic, not its very existence. Archive-locking a fic so that it can only be accessed by logged-in users, and marking it as explicit so that the adult content warning shows up, are existing measures in place to make that sort of thing less likely to happen. I would support further measures being made to ensure that underage people cannot access material marked "explicit", but if they choose to ignore an "adults only" marker, it's not the writer's fault.

2) You assume that all fanfiction is written by adult women. There are older children and teens in fandom too. Some of them write fanfiction. Some of them even sexually explicit fanfiction.

3) I actually don't agree with the idea that sexually explicit RPF involving minors should be shared freely, because I don't think that it's appropriate to have it potentially accessible by the subjects. However, fic involving characters is different from fic involving the actors. And again, not all of it is being written by adults in the first place.

4) If you want to criticise people pushing unwanted sexuality on the underage actors, perhaps you ought to start with the fucking creators of Stranger Things, who forced the children to kiss entirely because it made them uncomfortable. I consider that far worse and more unethical than someone writing fanfic about the characters fucking, because it involved actual children being made to do actual acts they were uncomfortable with.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
However, fic involving characters is different from fic involving the actors.

Anon keeps saying like a mantra, trying to convince themselves it's true, insisting to the cops that, no, they're not creepy, it doesn't count if they're fapping to underage kids, they're just characters!! Played by underage kids!! It's not creepy at all, guys!!

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Quite simply, most people cannot and do not keep a mental image of what a character's actor looks like in their heads at all times. If you need any evidence of this, look at the descriptions given in shipfic involving characters whose actors are old, out of shape, or ugly - I guarantee you that they'll be filled with six-pack abs and smooth skin and chiseled features no matter what the actors actually look like. This is because a fictional character is not the same as a real person. It's an amalgam of various traits, actions, and expressions, portrayed by an actor but transformed in the mind of the audience.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You really think the cops will get involved? Oh no I wrote an explicit murder scene, better call the cops on me because I MUST think that murder is OK in real life!

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm terrified of you. If you're this unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality, I fear what you might do after playing a violent video game, or god forbid watching something like Hannibal. Please seek help before you hurt someone, this is not normal.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
If it creeps them out to read fic, could they not just...avoid fic?