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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-19 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #561 ]


⌈ Secret Post #561 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 131

[identity profile] shobogan.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
The thing about really bullying? They don't let you ignore them. They don't give you a choice.

You can, however, avoid the anon meme if it upsets you. People talking about someone is not the same as people harassing someone - at that point, it's your choice to get involved.

Some negativity on the meme is perfectly sensible. Some of it crosses the line. None of it is anything you have to see, have to be involved in, have to be upset by.

You have the ability to ignore something that upsets you, when many people do not. I suggest you make use of it.

Re: 131

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
There's more to bullying than direct harassment. Malicious gossip and spreading rumours and lies is also bullying. A child can "ignore" a hate Web site set up by school bullies, a college student can "ignore" a vicious non-holds-barred gossip Web site. Will this prevent the cyberbullying from hurting them? No. I never visit the meme, and the shit flung there still sometimes hits me. And I'm not the only one. It's not up to us to dodge the shit - it's up to the nasty little monkeys to quit flinging it.

Re: 131

[identity profile] shobogan.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose we've different definitions.

Those people have to deal with the gossipers in their day to day life. The internet is just one more tool in the arsenal of someone already equipped to hurt them.

The thing about the net - rumours and lies don't hold as much water, because everything is recorded. I can't say the number of times I've seen "links or it didn't happen". From what I've seen, people are ridiculed because of what they say, what they do.

You condemn people for insulting others for their public opinions and actions, and then turn round and call them nasty little monkeys? How is that much different?

Re: 131

(Anonymous) 2008-07-20 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
When I think of bullying, I think of people talking shit about things others have no control over, like the way they look. The meme forbids that. What I see are people talking shit about the shit other people talk. That's a HUGE difference.