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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-20 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #562 ]


⌈ Secret Post #562 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 446 secrets from Secret Submission Post #081.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - empty comment ], [ 1 - Walken ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)

109 He's not a great actor, but I love John Sheppard and whatever part of him is Joe is just fine with me... Also, elaborate on the 'vindictive' part? I'm aware of there being touchiness, but I would have thought we're defensive, not vindictive.

ps. liking John Sheppard =/= thinking Joe Flanigan deserves an Emmy

113 Her MOM?! ...

122 I KNOW! UGH it makes me want to rip people's heads off.

132 You're the kind of person who says this and then gets surprised when people wish bad things would happen to you so you'd understand the difference between being sensitive and having legitimate triggers.

As it is, I just hope you're not in my fandom so I can avoid your fic. Given your attitude, I doubt it'll be well written anyway.

145 Shoshana (sp) Bean, all the way. But, I definitely agree with you over Idina. I think it's a shame she's on the official soundtrack...

172 /leave community, /defriend, /scroll button?

Re: 109,

[identity profile] vida-boheme.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Arf! I adore the sheer comedy value of that secret. :D Oviously, as a JF fan, I consider him to be the Sci-fi Laurence Olivier and WILL PETROL BOMB THE HOME OF ANYONE WHO DARES TO DISAGREE.Be afraid. Be very afraid...Bwahahahahah!

Sense of perspective, much?

Re: 109,

[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? I love self-defeating secrets. HERE, WATCH ME BE MELODRAMATIC WHILE PROTESTING THAT YOU WILL BE MELODRAMATIC UPON READING MY SECRET!

I suppose we're meant to take it as a compliment? Like the secret-maker is assuming that no one would like a character without having a hugely high opinion of the actor portraying that character?

*laughs*

Re: 132,

[identity profile] longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
132. This isn't attacking you darsynia it's just a comment, but, I personally don't think that I should be considered 'sensitive' to not want to read extreme violence or something... yeah there's a back button, but that just wasted my time. It's like how movies have genres. I wouldn't just keep going randomly to a movie, without seeing pictures, or titles or any previews or reviews or mentions, and then walk out if it doesn't suit me. Some guidance first would be good.

Re: 132,

[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Way to read me INCREDIBLY WRONG. Like, WOW. *boggles*

My comment:
You're the kind of person who says this and then gets surprised when people wish bad things would happen to you so you'd understand the difference between being sensitive and having legitimate triggers.

I'm on your side with this. I was subtly (too subtly, I guess?) implying that the idiot who wrote the secret hasn't ever had anything happen to them that would make them need to avoid certain issues. Usually people like that are selfish enough to assume that everyone should be like they are. Some people, on seeing the secret itself, might wish harm on the secret maker so that they could understand what it's like to have a trigger issue in the first place.

I'm not trying to say people HAVE to have experienced something traumatic to want to avoid non-con or rape or deathfic. I'm just saying that people like the secret-maker are trying to make it seem like EVERYONE who wants warnings on fic are just wusses who can't handle the difference between fact and fiction.

edit: It occurred to me that perhaps your statement of 'this isn't attacking' was meant to imply that you know I agree with you? In which case I'm just sorry to have reacted so vehemently, it's just I don't see anything in your comment that tells me you know I'm not agreeing with the secret maker...
Edited 2008-07-21 00:58 (UTC)

Re: 132,

[identity profile] longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
... um. I wasn't saying that at all actually lol. woo, misunderstandings. I was more posting a 'me too!' kind of comment, hence my 'I'm not attacking you', just in case you thought i was... and then you did anyway. ah well. Maybe I should have written 'i agree! [my thoughts]' instead, but I didn't think it through very well apparently. Sorry.

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[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
'Sok. It took about five readthroughs to realize that you weren't saying 'hey, not to be rude or anything, but I think you're wrong, there DO need to be warnings.'

An 'I agree' would have helped, yes. But hey, if I weren't the type to go re-reading all my comments obsessively after I've hit 'post' I'd have misunderstood you for longer than I did... so, it happened to both of us.

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[identity profile] aquadyne.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
145. Shoshana was my first Elphie, so I gotta agree with you there :D

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-21 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not bitching about how many DW secrets there are. I'm bitching about the general fandom and how they are insanely wanky. I love reading my friends reaction posts and then they just turn into posts about how one companion is better than the other, The Doctor is an asshole, RTD needs to die, etc etc. Totally ruins it for me.

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[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, my response wasn't about the secrets, though in retrospect given the number of other complaints about it, that makes sense. It was mostly a 'don't be in so many Who communities/friended to so many Whovians' kind of thing, though it's not like I can check to see if that was the case.

I definitely agree with you on the expanded context, though. Nothing pisses me off more when episode recaps become bash-y, especially since I tend to have some Unpopular Fannish Opinions that I end up running across the opposites of. When the episode reaction comments end up shorter than the bitch about whether the show's creators should have shown the afterbirth for realism in the alien baby's birth on a ship created by space vampires controlled by a hybrid alien created by the good guys in a failed experiment, I go, 'OKAY, that's enough! THANKS.'

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-23 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
whether the show's creators should have shown the afterbirth for realism in the alien baby's birth

At first I thought you were still talking about DW (and was confused trying to remember that moment), but then I got to the "space vampires" bit and I was like WAIT I KNOW THAT SHOW. :D Not exactly the kind of place I'd go looking for realism, though. *g*

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[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-07-23 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Err whoops! I forgot they're both sci fi, hah. Yeah, I couldn't BELIEVE how many people bitched about the total lack of realism when it came to the birth scene. It was like... you guys seriously need a reality check...