[ SECRET POST #4124 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4124 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Digimon]


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[Black Lightning]


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(Rahul Kohli who plays Dr. Ravi Chakrabarti from iZombie)


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[Ruby Tandoh from The Great British Bake Off series 4]


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[A Wrinkle in Time]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Is your reading comprehension truly that poor or are you trolling? Literally nobody in this thread has said there's something intrinsically bad about fiction specifically about queerness. Everyone who's objecting is objecting because it's poorly written fiction about queerness.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm specifically replying to this bit, not to the rest of the thread:

her audience (especially for that pen name) has become steadily more and more obnoxious about it not being good enough for characters to be textually queer while having adventures. They must spend an inordinate amount of time ruminating on their queerness, and run into manufactured situations where they have to drop the fucking zombie apocalypse to lecture people about pronouns.

Because this specific bit seems like it's criticizing fiction that has characters spend an inordinate amount of time ruminating on their queerness as such. Which, like, I agree that doing so awkwardly is bad writing, but there's nothing actually wrong with fiction doing that.

Preferring fiction where characters are textually queer while having adventures (as against fiction where characters specifically ruminate on queerness) is an entirely subjective preference. I don't think people preferring one or the other is really about them being obnoxious, just an audience having a different preference.

[(Anonymous)]

Here is why you appear to be shit-stirring for the simple joy of stirring shit: The part of the discussion you're quoting is literally about interrupting the narrative of a story to monologue about queer issues. If the main character is calling time-out on the zombie apocalypse for a pronoun lecture, then that is the bad writing that everyone is complaining about. Either that, or the main character is written intentionally as an idiot, so why am I reading about them in the first place?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree. I mean, I don't think that - for instance - a character calling time-out on a zombie apocalypse for a pronoun lecture is necessarily bad. It's only bad if the story expects you to take the zombie apocalypse seriously and literally. And that's the kind of thing that I would refer to as bad, awkward writing - a tonal mismatch. But I disagree that it's intrinsically bad writing. If you want to write a story that's nominally about a zombie apocalypse but actually about queer identity, I think that's a fine thing to do.

I mean this conversation is just so utterly pointless I don't know why I'm even responding but that really is how I feel

[(Anonymous)]

The story does, in fact, expect you to take the zombie apocalypse seriously. The pronoun lecture comes directly after several characters you're supposed to actually give a shit about have just died horribly.

It's not a story that's nominally about a zombie apocalypse but actually about queer identity, it's a story that's marketed and, for the most part, written about a zombie apocalypse that stops dead to shoehorn in awkward 101-level lectures.

(And no, it's not a hypothetical zombie story. It actually exists.)

[(Anonymous)]

I’m glad you have low standards. It must make your life much easier. Just acknowledge that some people expect better of their queer fiction, and go back to reveling in garbage.

[(Anonymous)]

there's nothing wrong with fiction that's specifically about queerness

[(Anonymous)]

DA

This doesn't have much to do with the comment you replied to. Is it a misfire?