[ SECRET POST #566 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #566 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 86 secrets from Secret Submission Post #081.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

I'll admit I didn't see those words right away. But I'm not defending the racism, I'm defending the person who wants to have fun in fandom and believes in keeping politics in fandom separate. They just shouldn't have used derogatory words like that.

*prepares to be "suuuure, we believe you/you're just saying that/too late, mind's made up, you're a fat racist bitch/lol ass cover backpedal"'d into oblivion now*

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

I don't think you can separate the racism, sexism and homophobia from the OP's comment. And while I sympathize with the desire to not problematize the shows you enjoy, politics/race/sex/etc inform a person's world view.

To say "this is escapism, I don't want to hear about real life problems" can hurt and alienate people who have no choice but to deal with real life problems that are being reflected in what they want to be their escapism. The comments by the OP merely took that natural alienation to the next level. I'm not saying you're a bigot; at least no more so than any of us who grew up in Western society-- it's a problem of blind-spots rather than willful bigotry.

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

Well...it's fandom. It's just one tiny insignificant aspect of life, just because people don't want that stuff in fandom doesn't always mean they don't give a shit otherwise. *shrugs* That's not my MO, though, and I'm not saying people who are like that are always right, because some of them actually DO say "I'm happy in my perfect world so I don't care about other people's problems now let me masturbate to my yaoi in peace" and that's just lame.

That said, though, I discovered a new favorite movie simply by analyzing the themes of sexism and change and revolution running rampant through it in women's studies class. =D So sometimes politics and fandom DO mix well. Just gotta find the balance and all that jazz.


...ugh, I SWORE I WOULDN'T GO FURTHER INTO THIS. >:[

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

Understandable. But for some people discussing the racism and sexism inherent in their hobbies is an important part of dealing with the issues in "the real world", and also of enjoying their hobby.

It's the same sort of defensive annoyance you get when you see anyone telling anyone else "stop talking about this in fandom". If someone's trying to shut down a conversation of any sort, it indicates a certain amount of, if not outright antipathy, annoyance with the topic which can make the people who are discussing it feel alienated and bothered. which, of course, is magnified when discussing touchy subjects like race, class, sex, and so on.

Hey, at least we're being civil? :D

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

*nod* Good point, I guess. Still don't entirely agree, so...agree to disagree?

Yeah. Once I cooled down I realized there were some comments like this worth discussing like a human being instead of a rabid dog.