[ SECRET POST #566 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #566 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 86 secrets from Secret Submission Post #081.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

Some people like politics. Some people are working through problems they have with the show to get back to a squeeing place. I think everything has it's place in fandom-- honest discussions of sexism, racism and homophobia should too.

I don't think anyone who chooses not to participate in those discussions is an idiot, but I do think anyone who wants to shut those discussions down is alienating people via implicit bigotry (of which, like I said to sarajayechan, the OP's comments are a logical endpoint.) I don't think people agreeing with the OP are bigots perse-- except insofar as by saying "I don't think these subjects matter" a person will alienate a large swath of people who wrestle with said subjects daily and for whom they do matter.

[baka-tenshi.livejournal.com]

I get what you're saying. I understand what you're saying.

What I don't understand is why people feel the need for the other way around -- fans who don't ACCEPT and TALK about the things are-are sexist/racist THEMSELVES OMG!~!! I don't think the OP's intentions is to alienate the political issue. I think they added that for that ~ironic twist~.

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

Except, as I said above, any time someone says "I wish people didn't talk about this in fandom" the people who talk about it will feel hurt and alienated. And it gets worse if you say "don't talk about racism (or whatever the political issue up for discussion is)" because not only will they feel alienated because you're telling them to stop having their interesting discussion, you're pretty much saying "I don't care about the topic of discussion".

And when you say "I don't care about racism/sexism/homophobia", well... it's a little bit touchier than saying "I don't care about this pairing."

If the OP was trying to be ~ironic~, she failed miserably and made herself look like a bigoted asshole instead.

[baka-tenshi.livejournal.com]

I would rather not feel alienated because I don't want to talk about that particular topic.

Let me share to you what kind of ~political~ stuff that's plaguing one of my fandoms at this moment. (Insert disclaimer here.)

There's this boyband. At first there were 8 members to start off with. The company decides to add more so the end result was 13. For a while, all seems well. Then all of a sudden the company decides to add another member. GASP. He happens to be a talented violinist as well but that didn't matter. He was booed off stage. The fans chanted ONLY13 whenever he performed.

Things settled down. The company decided to add another one. This time, they went apeshit. They edited out him and the violinist out of pictures, airplane photos, music videos, even the music files itself.

Currently there are two sets of groups against one another. ONLY13 and the ones who support and like the two new members.

This... this stupid fight tore the fandom apart because of the simple opinion whether or not the two should be added to the group even though the fans really have no say and no power (despite what they think).

Maybe it's an extreme version of politics but I want to enjoy that fandom because of the dorky guys and homosexual context. Would you still think I'm alienating those who want to keep "fighting" over that nonsense? I'm sick and tired of it and it's emotionally draining.

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

I think you're missing the part where telling people you don't care about racism or sexism is more hurtful than telling people you don't care if there are 13 or 14 members in a band...

[baka-tenshi.livejournal.com]

I think you're missing the part where fans take everything seriously.