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⌈ Secret Post #4134 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I've always found Jimmy Fallon's face slightly creepy and that picture is only making it worse.

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard because like... I do hate Jimmy Fallon, he's an annoying twerp, I've never found him funny. And Colbert is obviously great. But it feels like it becoming a political issue complicates everything. Like, if the problem with Fallon is his politics, it seems trifling to continue disliking him just because he has a twerpy face, you know?

And there's also something weird about evaluating late night shows on their politics in the first place, but that's just America 2k18 for you I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

Talk show hosts have no obligation to throw hard-hitting questions at their guests.

[(Anonymous)]

They don't have an obligation.

But, one, it's OK for viewers to want them to do so, and to choose to avoid hosts who don't do so. That's a totally legit preferences. And personally, even setting aside the political side of things, I would definitely prefer to watch a talk show that has actual interesting conversations, instead of shows where the host just lets the guest riff on their pre-rehearsed stories.

Two, if you're a host and your guest is someone who's done wildly controversial things, I do think it's better to either address that, or not have them on the show at all, rather than ignoring it. If you have someone who consistently and intentionally says racist or sexist or homophobic shit, I don't think there's any virtue in giving someone a pass on that. If you don't want to talk about those things, don't talk to people who do those things.

If you had Don Blankenship on your show, there wouldn't be any virtue in just refusing to ask him about the fact that he caused a shitload of worker deaths, you know? Sometimes people do things that they really can't be given a pass for. Obviously, where you draw that line can vary, but I think the line does exist.

[(Anonymous)]

Reading this comment made me realize why I stopped watching talk shows.
There is literally nothing fun about them anymore. They exist and operate almost exclusively as the mouthpiece for a bloodthirsty mob. They actually suck joy from my life force. Just like your comment.

[(Anonymous)]

They actually suck joy from my life force. Just like your comment.

Happy to help!

But also...

if you don't like talk shows, don't watch them. Ultimately they're a consumer product like any other. And if talk shows shouldn't be political in the first place, OK, then why have politicians on as guests? If you're going to have politicians on as guests, the shows aren't going to be apolitical.

I really don't know what you're asking for.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know why they have politicians on talk shows. Or why they have to be so political. It wasn't always a thing, and when it became a thing, I stopped watching.

From what I can tell, the majority of current consumers want exactly what you want from your talk shows, which I guess is why they changed to meet that need.

I hope someday people will prefer fun again. These things are cyclical, so maybe they will.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I'd be fine with them not having politicians on at all! But if you're going to have politicians on in the first place, you can't do it in a way that's total dogshit.

Also, like... I'd prefer to have fun too but the reason that people care about politics usually has less to do with being joyless scolds and more to do with the fact that politics has a material impact on the actual quality of life of ordinary people, yadda yadda yadda

[(Anonymous)]

I hope someday people will prefer fun again.

I'm with you...I'd rather watch a lighthearted interview with interesting personal anecdotes. There's enough politics everywhere else.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope someday people will prefer fun again.

Some of us actually consider politics to be fun. I'd much rather watch politicians on talk shows than some brainless celebrity advertising some movie I have zero interest in seeing.

[(Anonymous)]

"I hope someday people will prefer fun again."

What an odd thing to say, as though people are genuinely making a mass decision to not watch fun stuff vs. having different standards of fun than you.

I posted this comment below.

[(Anonymous)]

Late night talk shows are about entertainment. If you want politics, try Bill Maher on HBO or the MacNeil Lehrer News Hour.

Re: I posted this comment below.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not the one choosing to have presidents and other politicians as guests on talk shows

But to the extent that presidents and politicians are guests as talk shows, talk shows are going to be unavoidably political

Re: I posted this comment below.

[(Anonymous)]

What if I told you... that different people find different things entertaining?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. And audiences have no obligation to like softball interviews.

[(Anonymous)]

Late night talk shows are about entertainment. If you want politics, try Bill Maher on HBO or the MacNeil Lehrer News Hour.

[(Anonymous)]

What if I told you... that different people find different things entertaining?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't watch either. Didn't realize Fallon had deviated from The Approved Narrative.

[(Anonymous)]

How do you mean?

[(Anonymous)]

Is Fallon the one who laughs at every joke (no matter how weak) as though it's the funniest thing in the world, yet seems to get almost upset when a guest is funnier than him?

[(Anonymous)]

That's him. It's really bizarre to watch, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't stand Jimmy Fallon, he's completely spineless and pathetic.

[mrs_don_draper]

Same. I used to love the guy, but it's like he got more and more obnoxious as time went by. He always talks over his guests to the point that several guests have made mention of it, and all his games either require alcohol or he acts a sore loser. And don't even get me started about his politics.

Hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to write something to the effect that every one has their own style, but then I realized it's been a damn long time since I watched a US late night talk show all the way through. Though most have segments I occasionally enjoy, I don't really go for any of them (Fallon gushes, Kimmel's abrasive, Meyers is inoffensive, but lackluster, Colbert is too pointed and smug, and Corden is kind of all over the place).

If I'm going to watch a talk show, it will be Graham Norton (with an occasional foray to Alan Carr) - apparently, I like my talk show hosts gay and from the UK with drinking guests.