[ SECRET POST #4134 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4134 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/nB8Wlyz.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

This is true for a lot of my childhood favorites. I try to remember them fondly for what they gave me and never bring them up. There's just no way to fix them.

[bio_obscura]

I found the crows quite bad-ass, myself. Considering their depiction and the circumstances of the story, I think it was meant to be a positive portrayal.

[maximumhusky]

This pretty much. Reiterating what was said, it's okay for things to be a product of their time, but it was an attempt to come from a good place.

Another sign that the Dumbo movie was trying to be sympathetic can be found in the Song of the Rustabouts (https://youtu.be/C6c-bCSSKMo). The workers are singing sarcastically about how happy they are to be doing back-breaking labor for pretty much no pay. Common sentiment during the time was that Black people were perfectly happy in the circumstances that society had given them, and this song gives some critique on that view.

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes things originally meant to be insulting, backfire and become positive, because the person trying to do the insulting has a warped idea of what things are terrible.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

But if the crow characters are helpful to the hero, that says that the filmmakers wanted us to like them and cheer them on, even if their portrayal contains outdated stereotypes

[(Anonymous)]

But the crows were legit the nicest people outside of the mouse to Dumbo once they found out how horribly he was treated. Like they teased him, then when it turned out they were laying on more abuse they went, "Well fuck, we screwed up" and became not only his biggest help but his first fans and arguably some good friends of his. They cheered him on when he hit rock fuckin' bottom.

[tabaqui]

There's no point in feeling guilty or bad about it. The crows came from a bad place, but weren't horrible characters, and kid!you, it seems, didn't use those crows to make assumptions about people, so it's all good.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't catch it as a child either, mainly because I wasn't really super familiar with what they were based on (I'm not in the US). For me animals were always just... animals. (We also dub our movies so it muddles the waters even further)
Now I cringe at things like this or the twin cats in Aristocats but as a child I didn't get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Same to all of this.

[(Anonymous)]

Same! My country aired "Song of the South" for many years and I didn't know there was anything wrong with it.

[(Anonymous)]

Besides being class and cool, the crows were some of the few characters that were actually KIND to Dumbo.

[(Anonymous)]

Who sez they ain't super cool?

[(Anonymous)]

100% the same. Dumbo was one of my favorite movies as a kid because I loved the crows so much, and thought they were so, so cool and good for helping poor Dumbo.

In retrospect, I find the racist caricature aspect of them horrifying, but I do think the intent was for them to be well-regarded within the film.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. Didn't know anything about the history behind it all, just knew they had the most fun song, a much needed pick-me-up after Dumbo was all sad and lost.