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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-03 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #4138 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4138 ⌋

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[Gods of Egypt]


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[GBBO, The Great British Sewing Bee, The Great British Throwdown]


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[A Wrinkle in Time (movie)]


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[Richard Armitage/Lee Pace]











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Re: Stuff you're sick of

(Anonymous) 2018-05-04 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, well I'm genuinely confused what discourse we're talking about because all I've seen is The Guardian's toxic masculinity op eds. Though to be fair, The Guardian is my primary news source, and I don't really do social media.

Re: Stuff you're sick of

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-05-04 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
The latest round was kicked off by an incel-sympathetic post by the Toronto van killer last week. Eliot Roger is kind of the prototype for these kinds of attacks.

Re: Stuff you're sick of

(Anonymous) 2018-05-04 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, the op eds said as much. I'm still trying to figure out what the discourse involves and why people are sick of it and who's telling who to shut up about it.

Re: Stuff you're sick of

(Anonymous) 2018-05-04 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
The discourse mostly involves two groups of people. One group of people, Group A, saying "Incels are indicative of a larger, more pervasive current in contemporary society that needs to be identified and taken seriously." And then another group of people, Group B, saying basically that the problem with loneliness for men is a real and pervasive one and should be taken seriously, and then extending that argument in a couple different directions - sometimes using it to argue for more traditional gender and family roles, sometimes arguing that incels as a group have a legitimate grievance, sometimes both. The phrase "redistribution of sex" has been used on occasion.

So Group A is telling Group B to shut up, and the discourse is really annoying and stupid - more on Group B's part than Group A's, but Group A still isn't actually great at addressing the reality of loneliness, and they're still allowing the problem to be framed around the idea of "incels" in the first place.