[ SECRET POST #4143 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4143 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Hank Azaria, The Simpsons]


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03.
[Paul Hollywood, Great British Bake Off]


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04.
[All for One]


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05.
[Plato, philosophy(slash?)]


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06.
[Fear the Walking Dead]


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07.
[The Nanny]












Notes:

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[feotakahari]

What exactly would you say Whedon’s impact was?

I don’t mean this as a rhetorical question. I recall him influencing how people wrote dialogue, but I didn’t see him influence how people talked or wrote about feminism.

[(Anonymous)]

Not just dialogue. Buffy was a big damn deal at the time because it mixed so many genres and played with so many tropes. TV Tropes began as an effort to catalogue Buffy's tropes for a reason. Now genre TV shows that are funny, scary, romantic, sad, etc in every episode, sometimes even in one scene, are the norm, but that wasn't the case before Buffy. All of the writers for genre TV shows that are on air now all watched Buffy and take a ton of inspiration from it. I can think of at least one writer who blatantly apes Whendon so much I often wonder if he in fact has any ideas of his own.

[(Anonymous)]

Whedon did a fantastic job at taking, essentially, the Marvel model for how to write genre fiction, where you ground fantastical characters in relatable, real-world problems, and translating that into TV terms, and doing so in a way that foregrounded specifically female characters in really good ways. And just generally, being able to have things that were simultaneously high-concept and densely plotted and structured with arc themes and stuff like that, while linking those things to big character themes and natural-feeling drama. I think seasons 2 and 3 of Buffy are a master class in those things, in particular.

[tree_and_leaf]

He didn't have an impact on how people talked and wrote about feminism, no, but Buffy was important for a lot of women who were in their teens when the show first came out and definitely was an empowering role model. It's true that, with the benefit of having thought further about the show and indeed about feminism, that Buffy is maybe not as perfectly feminist as I thought at the time - but the show and the character did raise my consciousness and confidence, and however much of a douchecanoe Wheedon is, that remains true.