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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-16 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #4151 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4151 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-05-16 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand being annoyed at that sort of thing, but it's sort of disingenuous to say it's solely sexism driven. People do this sort of thing all the time for all sorts of reasons.

Also I think it's cute af that she gave up on winning and then he gave her the winner's ribbon anyway. Cute af. She got what she wanted.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-16 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
OP's talking very specifically about one instance in one book, though. They aren't generalizing that every time someone does something like this, it's sexism.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-16 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand being annoyed at that sort of thing, but it's sort of disingenuous to say it's solely sexism driven. People do this sort of thing all the time for all sorts of reasons.

Yeahhhh but if I had to bet money, I would bet that one gender does it a whole lot more than the other

(Anonymous) 2018-05-16 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt - Yep. I mean... sure, people of both genders might do this to convince other people to like them. But it's pretty disingenuous to act like this isn't a thing girls have been traditionally encouraged to do, specifically to get boys to like them.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's wrong to write observed behavior, though. I think it only becomes an issue if you feel that the narrative is supporting that behavior.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-17 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't you read the secret? The narrative DOES support that behavior. Bab, who is blamed for "losing" Ben's dog (who was stolen, mind you) deliberately throws the archery contest even though she's a skilled archer. She does it so Ben will forgive her, which he does. This isn't portrayed as a bad thing to have done - quite the contrary. It's portrayed as a natural and right decision and Bab is "rewarded" with the ribbon she didn't rightfully win because Ben (who won it in a rigged contest) says it's too girly.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-17 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
I would be perfectly capable of writing that with the same outcome and not have it come off as something amazing that everyone should do. Narrative tone is its own thing, Anon. Have you never read a bad summary before?

(Anonymous) 2018-05-17 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Idk, intentionally losing to make someone forgive you seems like a pretty shrewd thing to do. It's emotional manipulation, basically, and it works.