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⌈ Secret Post #4155 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I wouldn't call that moment misogyny per se (although coupled with the scene where he chokes out the priestess for no reason, it is kind of ehhh), but I do think that Erik killing his girlfriend is something worth examining in closer detail if people are going to be writing fic about the character. As I always say, if you're a fictional character and you want to kill half the world, that could be ideological, but if you want to kill your lover, that's pathological. She was useful to him and seemed to care about him -- he shot her anyway, just because she was in the way. It wasn't even a situation where the stakes were particularly high and there were no other options. So yeah, what do we think about that, a character who would shoot an intimate partner just because it's convenient? I don't think you can put all of it behind the idea that he's all about the cause. Some of that has got to be on him.

I still freaking love the character and want to read fic about him, but I've found all of one story that seriously attempts to deal with the consequences of that moment :\

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I think you make a really good point, and it's definitely worth deeper examination. I never really thought of it in terms of an ideological vs pathological impetus (although I guess I kind of did, attributing much of his actions as a dedication to an ideology).

I saw the moment as she lost her usefulness -- what good could she have done for him in Wakanda? And if he did care for her, in a way, I could see how he might have seen it a small mercy to kill her himself and not letting the other man kill her. She would not fall to the hands of the enemy (recall his own end). This is, if we're assuming he cares for her. I also think you may be placing too much on her character. Which in a way is the issue -- as far as the movie showed, there were only two central characters to his life, two people he was obsessed with (his father and T'Challah). Everyone else was a pawn to be used until their expiration. Even his cousin was a means for him to get what he wanted. As an audience member, I ask myself how much was I supposed to care about the Bonnie to his Clyde (I assumed she would be Bonnie) but then I realized this is all about him (and the cause yes)...what I'm trying to say is that the way it was staged, everything is about him. Other people, in his life, come second. And while women are clearly important, the focus is on the men. As they are the main characters, I suppose.

But I agree there is validity in exploring his actions as pathological. Sorry if I rambled or contradicted myself there; it's fun to have discussions about these things!

As far as the priestess goes, agreeing it was overkill, but that's kind of his style, and I figured he was doing it to prevent anyone else from receiving the gift of the Panther -- if you want to kill a people, or control them, you erase their culture, practices. Eliminating the priestess (since the priest was dead already, no?) ensured that the ritual could have no one to execute it. Along with burning the flowers, so truly, there could be no ritual.

Just my five cents, lol.

And that sucks that there's only one fic dealing with that moment in a serious manner :/ Hopefully you find more!