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⌈ Secret Post #572 ⌋

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But the female ones are just boring and fucked up, while you really relate to the fucked up male characters.

I don't really mind that he can't write female characters (I can relate to Night Owl just fine), I just wish he would stop making an attempt if he sucks so bad at it, that's all.

That's what I've been saying for years. Not that I've read very many of his things, but still, I haven't come across one that didn't have a rape/almost rape/sexual abuse storyline. Ever.

I will say this about Alan Moore-- most of his major works have some form of sexual abuse/rape in them, but for the most part, his minor ones don't. He has no control over which of his works get popular or get the most praise.

I also give him a pass because he never portrays rape as something actually arousing. Any rape or sexual abuse in his works is always portrayed heinous and reprehensible act. After all, who that has read Watchmen does not immediately think "rapist" when the Comedian is mentioned? Yes, he has fallen into the trap of using "rape" as a short hand for "bad guy", but that's hardly the same as making it secretly sexy, which to me is the real problem.

Yeah, that's why I said I haven't read that much. To a casual reader he easily becomes "the writer with the rape storylines", though, which is... well, if not problematic, at least a tad unimaginative. (And a bit annoying, since Watchmen is one of my favourite graphic novels but it still has that one thing that bugs me.) If he can write female characters without that storyline, though, I'd be happy to read it. Can you recommend anything?

Promethea is really good, though it gets kinda densely philosophical as it goes on.

The Ballad of Halo Jones is one of his best early works. It's a bit unfortunate in that it's technically unfinished-- he meant for it to have about 9 story arcs, but he had a falling out with the publisher after arc 3. Still, it's probably his most underappreciated work.

And From Hell doesn't technically have any rape or sexual abuse that I can remember, but it is about Jack the Ripper, so of course there's prostitutes. Basically, replace rape with murder, and that's From Hell for you. It's personally my favorite work of his (because I'm a little obsessed with the late Victorian era).

And though you probably don't want to read Lost Girls (which he freely admits to be porn), there's a really interesting sequence where the "Wendy" character, who has been having rape fantasies about the "Captain Hook" character, suddenly finds herself about to be actually raped by him. She starts to do that whole self-blaming thing, thinking she must have some how advertised that she 'wanted' it to happen, when suddenly she realizes "Wait, I don't actually want this to happen. It was a fantasy, this is real," and she turns around makes a stand against him and chases him off.

Thanks, I'll check those out once I have time. I saw From Hell movie some time ago and didn't actually know it's adapted from Moore until now. (We actually watched it on VHS, if I remember right.) And I'd actually like to read Lost Girls (morbid curiousity, I guess) if it was available at library (hahaha) or less ridiculously expensive (75 euros at my local comic shop). My quest to read that one is apparently doomed. (My friend contemplated on buying it, too, if it was cheaper and if she wasn't paranoid about someone seeing it on her self. :) I have more comics, some of them on the questionable side, so I'm only discouraged by the price.)

...I never realised I overuse the word "actually" that much. *facepalm*

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