[ SECRET POST #4171 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4171 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, you sort of can, in the sense that people in fandom spaces are barely ever going to be old enough to have seen Star Wars when it first came out? They'd have first watched it much later on, right alongside the more modern stuff, so it really is just a matter of what resonates more.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but they're still products of different eras. Stargate SG-1 would have been influenced by Star Wars. I mean, I'd judge racism more coming from a modern author than from a book written in 1923. (larger time gap, yes, but similar point.)

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt but you still see teens and kids talking about Leia as their female role model. She's a specific type of character and a lot of people do find she resonates through the present day. The era's were different but considering what a popular feminist icon she is I don't think it's out of line to compare her with other similar characters even if they're a gen apart.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry for not being clear. People can obviously have heroes and inspirations from any era. But to say that Stargate SG-1 had better feminism or whatever than Star Wars isn't really fair, because it also has the advantage of 20+ more years of knowledge, experience, etc.

But yes, my friend's 10-year-old daughter adores Leia, so Leia's influence definitely stays strong!

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't see "better feminism" in this tbh. I just saw "these character fit into different archtypes and one was a better emotional fit for me back then."

[(Anonymous)]

Excuse you, there are plenty of us in fandom that are old enough to have seen Star Wars in theaters during the original run.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it seems there is a frequent underestimation of the age of people in fandom. I think there are plenty of us oldsters here, we just don't normally advertise our age (speaking for myself, anyway). I'm old enough to have seen Star Wars in the original run, and my mom was an original Trekkie. I've been in fandom since the zine days.
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[(Anonymous)]

haha, no offense meant! i know you exist, that's why i said "barely ever", not "never"!

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! Not all of us are in our teens or 20s. That is one of the greatest parts about fandom is that a show/movie/book/etc can bridge generations and give us common ground.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Even if you go with the conservative range for Gen X, Star Wars landed right in the middle of most of our childhoods.

[(Anonymous)]

And even then, people underestimate how media access has changed - when I was a kid, you saw things in the cinema, then on TV, when they were broadcast, and if you missed it, you had to wait possibly years to see it again. No cable, either. Then VHS recorders came in, but movies were far more available than TV shows for a long time. It wasn't until the mid-90s and DVDs that TV series became affordable and commonly available to buy. It was a lot easier to watch Star Wars than it was to find something like SG-1, if it was even broadcast in your country.

[(Anonymous)]

Affordable TV on DVD was a mid-00s development. Mid-90s would have still been expensive boxed sets of VHS tapes.

[(Anonymous)]

The Stargate fandom on tumblr at least seems to skew kind of young from what I've seen. A lot of them seem to be of an age where they were, like, toddlers when the show first aired, which is kind of interesting. It wouldn't shock me to learn that most of the Stargate fandom I've seen weren't born yet when the OT was in theaters.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that's tumblr for you. Most of the Stargate fans I know are at least mid-30s, up to early 70s.

[(Anonymous)]

They're probably not the ones who are out there online making gifsets or writing fic/meta or whatever, though. I'm sure there are lots of fans who are older that go to cons and stuff, but that doesn't mean that the Stargate fandom which is active online is going to be representative of the older fans.

[tabaqui]

*waves*

Saw it at the theatre when I was ten. WHOO.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Every generation thinks it invented sex, and fandom apparently.

[(Anonymous)]

Is saying that people born in the 70s (or earlier) are a minority in current fandom spaces that big of a deal?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

"Barely ever" does not mean, "minority." And I think it depends a great deal on which fandom space you choose to participate in.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't mean "this generation invented fandom" either.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

"Barely ever" implies a tiny minority, maybe 1/10 if not 1/100. So my joke was on point.

[(Anonymous)]

You're skipping over a whole lot of people in this comment. I wasn't born yet when the first Star Wars came out in theaters, but I watched it on VHS as a kid in the '80s.

(Also, what others have said above about there probably being more people older than me in online fandom than you think.)