[ SECRET POST #4176 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4176 ⌋

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[feotakahari]

That sounds aggressively limiting. I’ve read about all kinds of vampires in all kinds of times and places, and they can all be interesting if the writer is good.

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't call it aggressively limiting. They never said there couldn't be other types of vampire media, they just said it does nothing for them and a lot of modern media is disappointing for that reason. Sometimes people just aren't into stuff, regardless of how good or otherwise it might be, or are only into a specific variant of it. What's aggressive about that?

[(Anonymous)]

At the same time, I think pretty much all variations on Dark Urban Fantasy Gritty Realistic Vampire have been fairly well mined for a little while

unless they want to make another World Of Darkness video game

[(Anonymous)]

I mean... having any preferences is limiting. But it's not unusual or unreasonable to have preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, it's a sub-genre, and if that's what appeals to them then I don't see how they're limiting themselves. Something can be interesting. Not everyone has to be into it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind more gothic horror/gothic fantasy myself. In general, anyway. I don't mind modern urban fantasy either, and I'd enjoy some variations on gothic horror as well - I kind of like the idea of gothic horror IN SPACE, for example, or in a futuristic or post-apocalyptic setting. Things like Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, with the gothic aesthetic but not necessarily a historical setting. But yes. I adore the Hammer Horrors, caveats about 50s-70s sexism etc aside, and I would love getting new stuff in a similar vein. Pun intended.

I think some of the problem, though, might be that while they work really well as movies, they might struggle some as series. Gothic horror tends to be a slow, eerie, set-piece focused affair a lot of the time, which might be awkward in a series. Sustaining mood long term could be an issue.

Though I think Hammer Horror themselves made Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter in the vague hopes of turning it into a series (and I think it did get a comic book for a while there), and I wouldn't mind some of that. A gothic/historical series following an old-school Van Helsing-type hunter through cases would be cool. Like a lot of the historical crime shows out now, and with a similar tone, but with vampires/ghosts/witches/etc. Part of what I liked about the Dracula films was Peter Cushing's various Van Helsing characters and their not-always-directly-Dracula-related misadventures.

Or you could go original-flavour Dark Shadows on it, either. Or Penny Dreadful. Bit soapy in both cases, but at least the aesthetic was there.

[(Anonymous)]

I do love the tone and approach, so I agree with you there

But it's honestly not at all exclusive to Hammer Horror for me - there's a fairly large number of different kinds of horror that I would enjoy a hell of a lot more than the stuff that's popular now. Give me gothic stuff, give me mellow spookiness, whatever it is, just give me something.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Christopher Lee really is the best. No-one modern really measures up.

[(Anonymous)]

Try Anno Dracula by Kim Newman; it's a really interesting take.

Any recs?

[(Anonymous)]

You make me wanna watch this movie (and all their ilk). I'm generally down for all kinds of vampiric hijinks, but there is something about the sexual charisma / energy of the old school, think Stoker's Dracula (the book, the scene where he saves Parker from the lady vamps) . Into it! Thanks, OP.

Do you have any recs? Thanks, if you do.

[(Anonymous)]

Christopher Lee was THE best Dracula fr.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly this is comforting to know because sometimes I really want to write a gothic (I like it for more than just vampires) but I discourage myself because it's not exactly the hottest thing in literature anymore. Not my fault I was born too late! But I think there are a lot of people into it, it's just a very niche thing these days.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that the height of vampires was their implied sexuality - the sexual freedom against the backdrop of an oppressive society. And the darkly delightful, even frightening, implications of vampires and sexuality.

But I don't think vampires can be written that way anymore, because society has moved beyond "implied sexuality". Stocker writing Dracula with implied sexuality (even bisexuality) represents a real societal literary barrier. We don't have that barrier today, neither within the limits of what is appropriate/inappropriate to be explicit about in society or in high literature. It would just be a bit baffling and underwhelming at this point to read about vampires with only implied sexuality.

Not that vampires need explicit erotica to be successful. But I also don't think toning it down would recreate the same morbid fascination as it had in the 19th or earlier 20th century.