[ SECRET POST #4188 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4188 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[OP wanted a warning for spiders, also everything below is spoilers and etc.]




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02. https://s33.postimg.cc/olor17zrj/s21.jpg
[OP warned for gore/death]


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03. [SPOILERS for Hereditary]


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04. [SPOILERS for Hogwarts Mystery]



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05. [SPOILERS for Vampyr]



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06. [SPOILERS for Digimon Adventure Tri]



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07. [SPOILERS for Blue Exorcist]



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08. [SPOILERS for Solo]



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09. [SPOILERS for Solo]



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10. [SPOILERS for Solo]




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11. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]



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12. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]




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13. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]




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14. [WARNING for discussion of child porn]



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15. [WARNING for discussion of sexual abuse]

















Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[thewakokid]

well, just for context, if a writer wrote a rape scene, but had no intended it to actually be rape and thought they were just writing some kinky shit (Thinking all the bodice ripper stuff) does that mean that it's A-OK?

I mean, "The writer never even considered that this is basically assault" doesn't feel like it would have a mitigating effect in any other circumstance.

[(Anonymous)]

ah, the old twilight argument. it's bit romantic it's creepy, witch hunt witch hunt

[thewakokid]

Well, yeah, Does it matter that the writer finds it sweet if the actions themselves are by most peoples standards creepy? I don't know.

I do think that most people find it creepy regardless of what the writer intended, tho. And if you think the authors intent doesn't matter with twilight, then the same should apply to Harry Potter.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't mean that it's A-OK. It's about trying to interpret it in context, and authorial intent is one important piece of the context. What did the author want us to take from the scene, and how does that fit in relation to the rest of the story? How do we actually respond to the scene, as readers? How big is the tension between those two things? Is this a tension we can resolve? There are times where the intended meaning is so dissonant from our reaction that we just can't see them the way that they're intended, and there are times when that's not the case - it depends how it's written and what's going on.

So with the scene in question - on the one hand, a bare recital of the facts of the scene would probably fall under our definition of sexual assault. On the other hand, that's clearly not what was meant by JKR, and it's also clearly not something that would really have been considered sexual assault by most readers when the book was released. It's not something that every reader today would see as sexual assault, and the scene isn't written in a way that really couches itself as sexual. And it doesn't really make sense with the rest of the book - we're really not meant to read James as sexually menacing, and reading him that way would be massively tonally dissonant. So, I would say it probably makes more sense to interpret it as not being sexual assault. Ultimately, it's a fictional construct, not a real event.

But honestly, there isn't even anything intrinsically wrong with interpreting the scene as sexual assault. I don't think it's the most textual or accurate reading, but there's nothing wrong with that, and it can be interesting to say, OK, how would this interpretation change the way that we read the rest of the story. I don't think this interpretation is that interesting, but that's just me. Where the problem comes is when people treat that interpretation as though it's textual, as though it's fact, and rely on it to make arguments about other parts of the text (IE, Snape Woobie James Evil). It's fundamentally bad and biased interpretation.