[ SECRET POST #4196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4196 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Nope.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

They're right though.

[(Anonymous)]

They're not right. It's a sexual fetish. Having sexual fetishes isn't bad, and it isn't shitty, and it's not anti-feminist. For Pete's sake.

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody said it was anti-feminist? They said femsub is so utterly normalized and accepted that the insidious notion that women are all sexual submissives who want to be raped or dominated is incredibly popular among a loooooot of men and actively harmful for many women who don't like that sort of thing. The popularity of abusive drek like 50SOG among women does not help dissuade this, in fact I often see it brought up as an example that all women like this type of shit. You can't deny this is a thing that happens.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt- they said "their shitty fetish reflects harshly on women"

you can't just deny what they actually wrote only to make your point. nonny you agreed with is not on your side

[(Anonymous)]

sa- also can we not shit on women's literature as if it is their fault for making things popular that they like. sure let's expect women to cater their interests to the most useful feminist imagine so society can't use them against them, *that* will solve the issue

christ

[(Anonymous)]

Stop defending trash like 50 Shades and bringing up feminism, your bias is showing.

[(Anonymous)]

why? do you have an actual opinion except for hurrdurrr erotic lit bad?

[(Anonymous)]

Well they aren't wrong there either, but I mean if you wanna keep zooming in on that and bringing up "muh feminist boogeyman" with no real argument then by all means ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

[(Anonymous)]

putting the onus of not playing into stereotypes on the discriminated is baffling, if that is your idea of a real argument im afraid we won't be having a "real" conservation either way

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody said it was anti-feminist

They said that someone is making a choice that "reflects poorly on women as a whole" and is shitty. To me, that is equivalent to saying that it's anti-feminist. I'm open to listening if you don't think that's fair.

They said femsub is so utterly normalized and accepted that the insidious notion that women are all sexual submissives who want to be raped or dominated is incredibly popular among a loooooot of men and actively harmful for many women who don't like that sort of thing. The popularity of abusive drek like 50SOG among women does not help dissuade this, in fact I often see it brought up as an example that all women like this type of shit. You can't deny this is a thing that happens.

I'm not denying that it happens. I'm saying that it's not the fault of women who are into femsub, and it's wrong to blame it on those women. Blame it on the people who believe that women are all sexual submissives and who say that 50SOG proves this, not the people who like 50SOG.