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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-04 02:50 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
What am I looking at, here?
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-07-04 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
A quick google search says that Katherine Heigl went to a cemetery to visit some family graves. While she was there she took a couple of goofy selfies next to monuments. Some people on the internet were outraged.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
eh

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
SOme people need lives.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
They'd die of heart failure if they saw the cemetery in my town what with everyone sunbathing and having picnics.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Was she grinding on them or defacing them or something? I'm pretty sure at least some of my ancestors would be down with taking silly pictures with a stranger. If the mad people don't come from a tradition like that, then why would they give a fuck, dead is dead right?

People are weird. They'd get mad about how you get out of bed in the morning if they knew how you did it, but a girl taking selfies and being happy in a cemetery is the worst.

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2018-07-04 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, if it's her own family members, I don't see what the big deal is?

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a silly thing to get angry about.
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[personal profile] bur 2018-07-04 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That's silly. Everyone dies, and unless they've died in a uniquely tragic way graves are just...normal things. If she was pulling silly faces in front of, like, the big wall in Ypres for the missing dead, sure. That's tacky. Random grave? Meh.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Have done this numerous times whilst in cemeteries. Gosh, good thing there wasn't an internet then.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a bit disrespectful but certainly not hte end of the world

people really need to get over hating on her

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not even convinced it's disrespectful. The pics she took were with decorative objects that she was in no way defacing. Statues and monuments in a cemetery are supposed to look nice. You're supposed to take selfies with pretty things. There is no bad here.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah it's weird, no one would bat an eye if her face wasn't in the picture
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2018-07-04 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not something I'd do but it's also not as bad as people who make rude gestures or straight up vandalise graves. But even the hate for that woman who flipped off a sign for an ill-judged "joke" got too much iirc.

Ultimately I feel...why would the dead care? They're dead. It's nice to be respectful for any surviving relatives but if these are her relatives then I don't see the big deal. She'll know her family's views better than us!

I don't think so either.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-04 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Though, it's not something I would do - but only because I don't take selfies.

I do wonder how these outraged people would feel about Dia de los Muertos or cemetery movies or cemetery tours where I'm sure this kind of thing happens all the time.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2018-07-05 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe this is simplifying the issue but sometimes I hate that my culture takes such a constantly sober approach to death that it is automatically considered disrespectful to be happy in a cemetery.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-05 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering if that was the problem here. I think sometimes it is that simple, unless you want to add in the part that it's a happy young woman taking selfies, so that's x100 more disrespectful.

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[personal profile] syncing_feeling 2018-07-05 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
When I was working in care and one of our residents passed away, a colleague of mine was doing this really full-on, over-the-top fake crying at the funeral. She said afterwards that where she came from it was basically unheard of for people to not be crying and inconsolable during funerals, and she thought it was really weird there wasn't more crying and that the lady's family told a few light-hearted anecdotes and jokes in the eulogy.

She probably wouldn't have been impressed with my friend's funeral where his son arranged for a singalong of Al Martino's 'Quando Quando Quando,' one of his favourite songs. It was surreal but it was exactly the kind of light-hearted thing he would have wanted. He would've found it hilarious.
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(Anonymous) 2018-07-05 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, yes. Our culture really needs to just get over its issues with death in general, honestly. I also hate how the only "acceptable" reaction to someone's death is to be constantly sad and preoccupied with the dead person. When my grandmother died, I was actually relieved because her health had really been deteriorating for a while and I was happy that she wasn't suffering anymore. I missed her, of course, but she'd had a long and happy life and it was better for her to not linger on as a shell of what she was. But apparently I was supposed to be devastated or something, IDK. It's dumb.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-05 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
Looking at this thread I have to say I don't get why it's so hard to understand for so many that yes, taking oh so hilarious selfies with random grave monuments is disrespectful to some people. Different cultures have different aproaches to burial and mourning and there isn't a "better" or "worse" way. Just because you like something more doesn't mean it's the only right and acceptable way.

Her own family's graves- sure, she can do whatever she wants with them. But if someone objects to a person doing this with other families' graves? It's really not that hard to respect that.

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+1

(Anonymous) 2018-07-05 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
it's also really not hard not to throw a shitfit about it. it's not that big a deal.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-05 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
But they were her family's graves, dude.

Get the fuck over yourself, people are only throwing a shitfit because they want to be offended.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-05 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
And the big deal is?...