[ SECRET POST #4201 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4201 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sophie Turner, from Game of Thrones]


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(Hindustan Times)


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[Philip Quast in "Ultraviolet"]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I am just... incredibly dubious of this. Just this whole idea that artists are going to be totally fine with you saying that you don't like it. Maybe you're right - I can't prove it one way or the other. I just find it really hard to believe that artists on the Internet (or really, any other group of people on the Internet) are totally chill and open to requests and criticism.

I completely understand why people are anxious and worried about trying to communicate stuff like that. It's an extremely natural way to feel.

[(Anonymous)]

OP isn't talking about artists in general, though. Artists who are doing commissions are a lot more incentivized to make their clients happy, surely? It'd be difficult to take commissions without listening to people's requests and feedback.

[(Anonymous)]

Just because someone has an incentive to do something, that doesn't mean that they actually do.

Especially when it's something like listening to criticism and feedback and taking it into account.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'd strongly recommend NOT commissioning art from an artist who doesn't listen to requests or feedback or take them into account.

[(Anonymous)]

How would you know how they will take it until you have a reason to confront them? Most people just commission artist whose art style they like not because of their professional behavior. Also there are artist who never opened commissions before.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - This is why people should do their homework before commissioning something from an artist. I don't know if "many people" completely neglect to check out someone's professional behavior before handing over their money, but honestly? That's not a smart decision. You can't eliminate all risk, but you can greatly decrease it by research and actually talking to the artist first.

[(Anonymous)]

That depends on whether you mean the fanartists who treat commissions as a business contract, or the ones who are going I can draw pretty well and I want money, so I can draw for money? The large portion of the second kind usually flake out and never deliver too, or deliver weeks/months late and think an apology and excuse is good enough 'cause its just fanart, right? It's not like the commissioner could have used that actual money for something else in the meantime.

There are good artists out there for sure, but let's be real, the fanart commission space is distinctly not a professional one. Think of how many people flake out on Big Bangs and exchanges as well. Professional conduct is generally not expected by either side of an exchange, nor should it be in practical terms. It's a treat if you find it.

[(Anonymous)]

And lemme just add, kudos to the artists who do take it seriously. There just aren't enough of you around to assume every artist will, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I respect those artist who keep the customer regularly updated and don't take any critique personally.

I'm terrified of pissing people off so if someone was paying me for something I'd be showing them every step of the way.

[(Anonymous)]

They take commissions to make quick cash for something that is a hobby to them. They don't care about making the customer happy. They'd prefer to just put in as little effort as possible and take the money. They don't do this as a charity or for anyone else's benefit than their own wallet.

[(Anonymous)]

On one hand, professional artists on the Internet are going to be totally fine with you saying you don't like it. They're an artist, you're a client, you do rounds of revision according to client comments and etc etc, that's normal.

On the other hand, fanart commissions and the vast majority of people who take commissions for fanart, are not professional artists and are not going to go through all that for a $50/commission, so yeah, it's silly to believe they'd act exactly the same as the professional charging $50/hr.

[(Anonymous)]

As an artist who has taken commissions, as well as being on the receiving end of disappointing commissions, I agree with this 100%.

If only.

[(Anonymous)]

I am with you, dubious!anon.

Personally, I would like to give and receive clear criticism, but a large part of fandom throws hissyfits at the slightest hint of anything that's not glowingly positive -- and that's over words (my realm), easily changed; visual art can be hard to fix to fix at all.