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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-11 07:28 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are people bitching about this? It isn't like Rowling was just "RANDOM THOUGHT!" She was responding to questions from her Jewish followers. Fans ask things and she answers them instead of just ignoring them like an asshole.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Because she does it all the time and it's ridiculous

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
How dare she answer fans. IGNORE THEM DAMNIT!

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It would probably be better to say something like "there probably would have been, and I wish that I had explicitly written some in, even though I didn't"

rather than "they were totally there all along, and I definitely knew they were totally there all along. I didn't bother to write them in, but they were definitely there, everyone in Hogwarts was gay."
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[personal profile] erinptah 2018-07-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I'm not gonna say Anthony Goldstein was a shining example of complex and fulfilling representation, but he was in the books. It's not like she only thought about it once someone asked and hastily made up a Jewish-sounding name for a character she hadn't written in the first place.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure why we assume Rowling should have talked explicitly about the presence of Jewish kids at Hogwarts. Ethnicity aside, I think she was way better off not mentioning anyone's religion at all. It wasn't the story to get into that.

I admit I was a little annoyed when she said there were no Wiccans at Hogwarts. I get she was responding to all the crazy parents accusing the series of Satanism, but c'mon. Rude.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? Why doesn't she just list every ethnicity on the planet, every gender, every religion, every sexual orientation, and say, "There was at least one of each of these people," and be done with it?

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I like you, anon.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
oh no, the mean author lady answered a young fan's question on twitter. burn her, i say, burn her.

she can't control how people report on it (calling it an "announcement" rather than, y'know, a response to a fan tweet), nor is there really any winning when it comes to the parts of fandom that get very stuck on representation to begin with.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't there a kid at Hogwarts named Anthony Goldstein, whose name gets mentioned several times in several of the books? I always assumed he was Jewish. Her confirming that there's a Jewish character, even if she didn't name one in the tweet or whatever, would just as far as I'm concerned be her confirming that that character was officially Jewish.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
That's a fair point! And I don't think this particular instance is especially objectionable, divorced from the broader context of The JKR Twitter Experience.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
iirc, she even mentioned anthony goldstein during the whole thing.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm Jewish and I don't care whether JK Rowling has a Jewish character or not.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, people relentlessly bagging on Rowling is tiresome.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I thought I would tire of people bagging on JK but she never shuts up and opens herself up to this kinda mockery/shows her ass so much I'm kinda glad. It's better than the worship she got for Doing The Least

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
LBR, she still gets worshipped here, all the hp comments that come up always have 'oh, what do you WANT from her?!1' I think there's a lot of ex fandom_wank people, and they were a bit 'Jo's Army'.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
idk why you people have such a hate boner for her. you always try to make it look as if she sits on twitter going "oh btw there was diversity in my book ;)"
she answers people's questions and headcanons.

i saw a quote of mark hamill going around about how luke's sexuality was never confirmed so he can be whatever people want him to be and everyone creamed themselves over that, but when jrowling goes "you're right hermione's ethnicity was never specified she could be black" she's fishing

because i guess we gotta prove how woke we are or some shit


(and no i don't know either of those communities)

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao way to prove that person's point about jo worship

because hermione was obviously written to be white. she sees white as the default but because she never specified she's like OH I TOTALLY INTENDED FOR HER TO BE AMBIGUOUS bullshit. It's not about being woke. It's about asking for woke points when you did nothing to earn them because it's kwel now

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Kinda off-topic from the point of OP, but I always find it hilarious there are religious people at a school of witchcraft. They celebrate Christmas despite witches being burned at the stake by christians. I just can't get over it.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
1) religion and witchcraft are not mutually exclusive (even Christianity), and 2) it's book canon (I forget where it's said exactly) that no "actual" magical folks were burned because they could easily escape.

Also 3) real witches weren't burned by mean old Christians either. For the most part it was *gasp* innocent Christians. Source: I am a witch who's very tired of The Burning Times mythos.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You need to learn some genuine history and then get over the gumph you've been fed on social media. The "burning times" are an utter myth. People were occasionally hanged as witches - almost none saw themselves as any such thing, and were usually just unpopular outcasts used as community scapegoats. As Anon Below says, far more "heretics" were burned than anyone you would recognise as a witch or were accused of same.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I kinda completely divorced my Potter nostalgia from Rowling at this point in time. The only things I consider canon are what's in books 1-7 and everything else is just headcanons.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's a good approach. I mainly just ignore Rowling's pronouncements after the fact.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-12 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Same