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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-13 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4209 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4209 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Once Upon A Time In Wonderland)


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[Secret of Mana]


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07. [SPOILERS for Luke Cage Season 2]



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Re: FSers who are both (abrahamic) religious and feminist

(Anonymous) 2018-07-14 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
This argument is based on your assertion that gender is meaningless unless you have more than one option, and I don't see why that is necessarily true.

Pretend you believe in a monotheistic creator Mother Goddess and she was female before all this, and gave metaphorical birth to all life. Some of that life turned out to be male, also female, hermaphroditic, asexual in the cloning itself to reproduce way, and others. That doesn't mean there wasn't a starting point, or an original state of being which other genders diverged from. But the original was what we define now as female, all along. It was meaningless back then, but it is meaningful now. You wouldn't call that Goddess genderless, she was always what we now define as female.

Disclaimer: I don't believe in Goddesses either, and obviously that's not Abrahamic, but as an example.

Re: FSers who are both (abrahamic) religious and feminist

(Anonymous) 2018-07-14 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
But would the mother goddess actually identify as female? Would that actually be the goddess's gender and not just a description retroactively imposed upon the goddess by humans who cannot fathom a divine being except through the filter of their own frame of reference?

Can the Abrahamic God actually be male and not just conceived of as male by humans?

Re: FSers who are both (abrahamic) religious and feminist

(Anonymous) 2018-07-14 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly, I don't know. I'm not religious myself.

But there seems to be not much pushback toward gendering the Abrahamic god and regarding and portraying him explicitly as a male/Father in all the organized Abrahamic religions, as well as treating him emotionally as such. A few people here and there might say that God is genderless, but that seems to be a personal one-off thing rather than the general agreement of the group at large who is content with the male authority figure of the old man in the sky.

I suppose you are saying that one way you can mesh the ideas is by saying "they are all wrong and my interpretation is correct"? But at what point is your interpretation the outlier?