[ SECRET POST #4211 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4211 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

01. https://i.imgur.com/8msydh6.png

[(Anonymous)]

I also have a very slight tiny little suspicion of an inkling of an idea that this might potentially possibly be the case

[(Anonymous)]

40K has its origin in a particular brand of British satire - the same sort of place Judge Dredd came from. Especially in some of the older stuff, it's clear that the Imperium are not the good guys, nor are they to be taken seriously. Nobody in the setting is, honestly - the closest thing is a colonial expansionist empire that would still be villains in almost any other science fiction property.

That's not to say there isn't a large part of the fandom that misses the satire and takes it much too seriously, but that's a problem a lot of satire-based properties have to contend with.

[(Anonymous)]

What you're saying is true, but I think it's been exacerbated in this case by the fact that the official canon has at a lot of times drifted away from the conviction that it's satirical and that the Imperium should be the bad guys. It's not just a misinterpretation by the fandom - it's one that's been aided and abetted by GW themselves at various times, whether intentionally or not. Just because it has its roots in satire doesn't mean that it has consistently held to that tone and idea.

At the very least, the Imperium are definitely the implicit protagonists of the setting, which doesn't help to start with.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Judge Dredd has certainly had his share of fans who didn’t understand satire.

[(Anonymous)]

ah, the colbert effect


though i have to admit i like a lot of the serious drama in lore too. what can i say, it's a thing for grimderk angsty men...

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely true, but I appreciate that the OP said "more fascist than they already were", because there's plenty of non-fascist fans, but there's also that certain type.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like it's a chicken-or-the-egg thing: there's the aspect of fascism being normalized/glorified by uncritical fans and creators, and there's that of already fashy dudes being attracted by certain aspects of the lore.

(GW does a questionable job of reconcilliating the IoM's original satirical grimdarkness into a more 'protagonist friendly' setting in general. They do too much pandering to the lowest common denominator of their fanbase.
I wish they'd focus more on small scale stories, and adepta and cultures beyond the basic "astartes/imperial guards frontlines" stuff. Like, actually exploring the worldbuilding instead of it just being kinda there. There is more to war than the immediate battlefield.)

(Also, considering the pic: I'm a bit... disappointed by how popular the Death Corps of Krieg are. Too many low effort memes, & their dramatic/horror potential not being explored.)

[(Anonymous)]

One would assume so. You tend to become what you pretend to be.

[thewakokid]

You can't prove it? I am shocked.