[ SECRET POST #4211 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4211 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I liked it because it actually gave them something in common and something to discuss that people could latch onto and go "ah, that's why they're together".

[(Anonymous)]

Ditto, but also because in some of my favorite BatB retellings—including Robin McKinley’s Beauty, which Disney lifted a lot of stuff from for the animated movie—the Beast reads a lot. I was always a bit creeped out by the Beast being, presumably, so young when he was cursed that he could barely read in the animated movie and Broadway musical, and despite not being happy with the live-action Disney film overall, liked that he was an adult when first cursed, and could read.

[(Anonymous)]

Where do you get that he could barely read in the animated version? He was eleven, if you buy Lumiere's complaint that they've been under the spell for 10 years and the 21st birthday deadline. As a royal brat, the Beast would have had a good 4 or 5 years of reading lessons under his belt before pissing off the Enchantress.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT—There’s a cut scene/song called “Human Again” that made it into the musical and onto the dvd, and in it there’s an interlude where Belle reads to the Beast and at the end of Romeo and Juliet—in the film—and King Arthur—in the musical—the Beast asks her to read it again. She asks him to read to her instead, and he struggles through a sentence before confessing that he learned “only a little, and long ago.” So she starts tutoring/teaching him.

It’s cute, but I prefer stories where the prince was an adult when he was cursed, because I feel like a bratty kid might still grow out of it, but an asshole adult might need more (curse) prodding.

[(Anonymous)]

Well that's unnecessarily depressing. I can see why it was cut from the theatrical release.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean the enchantress was obviously fae, you think they care about age and growth?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT—the Fae might not, but I do. I think the Beast’s story parallels and contrasts Gaston’s better if the Prince starts out as basically a more refined Gaston instead of a little brat. And the live-action Enchantress actually did give several fucks about change and growth, or at least about kindness.

Although the treatment was saccharine as fuck, and I disliked a lot of the film, I liked that the live-action Disney version did show the Beast as a little boy and hinted at why he became a grown jerk, rather than having him be an 11 year old little shit when he was cursed.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT, but I always took the Beast's comments to mean that he could have learned to read well, but chose not to. I mean, even at eleven, he was still a prince, and I assume an orphan since no one ever mentions his parents being around. Forcing a royal snot to read would not be a servant or courtier's place, so I don't think anyone would have tried if he said "nuh-uh". Listening to the line delivery in both the original film and the musical, there is a note of regret there, like he's learning another lesson in the consequences of his actions.

Sorry to write a novel on you, but those are my thoughts.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT—Huh, I’ve seen productions where it seems more shame that he doesn’t remember what he did learn and less regret for not being willing to learn.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmmm... DID they discuss it, though? I don't remember it coming up that often, or in much depth.

[(Anonymous)]

Belle reads poetry to him and he seems to aporeciate it, after dispataging her taste in loterature at first.