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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-09 04:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #582 ]


⌈ Secret Post #582 ⌋

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Re: 154

[identity profile] geministar01.livejournal.com 2008-08-10 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Most sexist men don't *hate* women. They regard women more the way that a normal man regards a horse - as useful for certain tasks, but incapable of other ones, as just a fact of life. It's not fueled by rage or hatred, it's fueled by apathy and ignorance. On the other hand, the term misogynist implies a much more violent and hateful point of view - the one that causes men to blame female co-workers for them not getting a promotion, so they shoot them in cold blood.

As not all sexist men have this kind of urge, there *has* to be a distinction somewhere.

"Then don't you think it might be possible that you're opposed to her as a character and that's why you don't want to see her as an icon? How can you say that all of those points are arbitrary when they're all themes that have been repeated and documented and when all you have to go on for your opposition is something that "struck you?" Maybe it's just your bias?"

It's always a possibility. But you have to consider - documented by whom? The supporters of the idea, of course, and therefore the reports are arguably laced with the bias opposite of mine. The real truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but since the supporters yell so loud to get attention for their work and label anyone who disagrees with them "misogynists" - a term which, deserving or not, might as well be a death sentence in the modern world - the other side never gets heard, so people assume that it doesn't exisit. Which is, of course, just how GW.org and their supporters want it.

"Superboy or Kid Flash's deaths were not the erasure of male models because there were many other male role models to choose from, and the same isn't true of Steph."

There are many other female role models to take Steph's place, many of whom are more deserving of the attention. Batgirl, Wonder Girl, Troia, Wonder Woman, Empress, Supergirl, Oracle, Black Canary, Catwoman, Huntress, the entire Birds of Prey line-up, Power Girl, Stargirl and more. They're all strong, determined women who would make great role models.