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⌈ Secret Post #4233 ⌋

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[tabaqui]

Maybe its how it's written? I dunno. Auror seems very rule-oriented, very paper-work-doing, very *staid*, and that doesn't fit Harry to me, at all. Plus, while he *was* brave during the war and etc., he didn't *choose* that, and he hated being afraid, fighting for his life, seeing people get hurt.

Just...doesn't work for me. His being married doesn't really work for me, either. I rather like him doing something creative, or teaching, or even working on getting some Muggle stuff to work in the magical world.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmmmm. I guess I associated that more with the Ministry of Magic than the Aurors specifically. I mean, staid, rule-oriented, paper-work-doing - those aren't words that I would associate with Tonks, for instance.

Also, the trope of the maverick cop who doesn't care about paperwork is pretty classic and it really amuses me to imagine Harry becoming that.

[tabaqui]

I really dislike that trope, so it doesn't much interest me. Paperwork is...kinda important.

Tonks as a person might have been all wild and crazy, but you don't get to run around shooting off magic in regular, non-war situations, in my mind.

Eh - you do you, anon, i just dislike the auror headcanon a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Auror seems very rule-oriented, very paper-work-doing, very *staid*

I would not use any of those terms to describe Moody or Tonks.

[tabaqui]

*shrug*
They cut up in private, and it was a war, so they had to do some crazy stuff, but in peace time? When they're all still staying a secret from the Muggle world?

Not so much.

Being a big rule-enforcer just doesn't work for me re: Harry.

[soldatsasha]

fwiw ia with you.

I've never been a fan of Auror!Harry (or at least not happy-to-be-an-Auror Harry), and a lot of that is how much the books show it would be a bad fit. Harry is a snarky asshole who has issues with authority, and more specifically with the Ministry.

Harry says he wants to be an Auror not out of any desire to actually do that job or bc he thinks it would be a good fit. He literally hasn't thought of his life past defeating Voldemort AT ALL. In the books he goes with 'Auror' bc he's only vaguely familiar with wizarding jobs and he's good at defense.


I've always favored Harry as a teacher or school staff (I could see him stepping into the role of Head of Slytherin House after the war, when no one else is willing to accept it, for example). I'm also fond of him becoming an Unspeakable or some other sort of "weird" job that keeps him as far from the public as possible. I also like the idea of him being perpetually stuck leading the DA/OotP as conflicts continue to arise in the years following Voldemort's death.

[tabaqui]

Yes! to all of this. So very much yes.

I never could quite get the whole 'unspeakable' thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Harry is a snarky asshole who has issues with authority, and more specifically with the Ministry.

I agree that this is true - I just don't think it's a bar to being an Auror. As others have pointed out, Tonks and Moody both managed it. I kinda feel like, if he was good enough at the job, people would put up with him being a bit of a snarky asshole. And I think he'd be good at the job.

I'm also fond of him becoming an Unspeakable or some other sort of "weird" job that keeps him as far from the public as possible.

The Unspeakables would seem to have all the same issues as the Aurors, vis-a-vis working for the Ministry, while being a way worse fit for Harry's observed skillset. Harry is calm, cool, and collected in tense situations; he has a powerful innate desire to help people in trouble; he is excellent at defensive magic. On the other hand, he displays no particular inclination towards the kind of weird, theoretical work that seems to be most of what the Unspeakables actually do on a day-to-day basis.

I could see the DA/OOTP thing but that requires getting into the political background of Harry Potter in a way that I don't want to do (and that the text of the series can't really sustain either, tbh).

[(Anonymous)]

The Unspeakables canonically operate outside of the Ministry though. In that they do not answer to the Ministry. I think you don’t understand their work? Not that we’re given much to go on, but one of their hallmarks is that the Dept. of Mysteries kind of does their own thing and the Ministry doesn’t interfere.

“The autonomous nature of the Department of Mysteries granted the Unspeakables a great deal of impunity, as they are the only division that does not need to answer to the Department of Magical Law Enforcement. They can even ignore the Minister for Magic's interventions, as they did when Minister Radolphus Lestrange attempted to shut down the Department.”

[soldatsasha]

I never got the impression that Tonks had a problem with authority or that she'd have a problem with the 'boring' aspects of the job. Just because she wears punk-ish clothes and is "cool" by muggle-raised teenager Harry's standards doesn't mean that anything about her was particularly rebellious or anti-authority.

And Moody is, imo, kind of a special case in that seemingly everyone around him including other Ministry employees believes he's a dangerous crackpot. Moody was probably a pretty normal Auror when he was younger, and he'd deteriorated over time. I got the impression that the only reason he was still an Auror was tenure or tradition of some sort, and that he might not even be on active duty anymore.

The other anon covered the Unspeakables bit. They operate outside the Ministry's rules, in total secrecy. Lots of their work IS weird theoretical stuff, but we frankly have no idea what most of their work entails and it's very likely that a lot of it might be right up Harry's ally. Harry isn't as booksmart as Hermione, but I think it's important to remember that he's really REALLY fucking good at magic, and he gets consistently good marks in his classes throughout the story. I could totally see post-war Harry settling into life as a recluse working as an Unspeakable on any number of weird projects.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're overstating the extent to which Harry has problems with authority. He's not some kind of no-gods-no-masters anarchist. He can work within the rules. The point I'm making with Moody and Tonks is that the Aurors clearly have some degree of tolerance for personality, initiative, different styles, etc. There's a degree of latitude that I think Harry can fit himself into. Especially within an Aurors department and a Ministry that would be largely run by people who respected him, on some level, rather than being actively out to get him.

Wrt the Unspeakables we don't really know enough about how magic works to say for sure. But I don't think there's any particular reason to believe that the things Harry is good at, the spellcasting and all that, makes one suited for theoretical experimentation with magic. Whereas we DO know that Harry has the aptitude to be a good Auror.

[digitalghosts]

I agree with Soldtasha bar the Unspeakable thing as I am as blind as Harry was in canon and had not even known they operate outside of Ministry. I do believe that the 'authority' thing is not any sort but just political because no official figures ever supported him (at least how he felt in 5th and 6th book). Those who did were in Order of Phoenix and some were Aurors like Moody who also seemed to be the only capable DADA teacher to kids (it was Barty as we know but I assume he imitated Moody well - I remembered a cool theory he was a double-spy or at least bombarded his own efforts subconsciously). Harry met Prime Ministers as well and did not fancy them besides Kingsley who again ... was an Auror. However, during the war he seemed more disillusioned with the profession and I would not see him working there buuuut I'd imagine he could be an independent expert person ... so .... American film 'detective' would work. There is a 'Hit-Wizard' job which is like bounty hounters but who knows if they stick to it.

Still, Harry is the person who I can see changing (I did not see the play so skipping that) BUT Hermione is ... not and she surprised me more as no bloody idea how she ended up with Ministry. Unless it all is a plot for her to finally abolish slavery and discrimination or such. Her, I would more see like Sherlock Holmes was to Scotland Yard with Ron and Harry as Watson :P . Now I need to find a fic like that :| .