[ SECRET POST #4246 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4246 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I've moved the goalposts all the way from "hints of a romantic storyline" to "elements of a romantic storyline".

OP's saying that it's not a good romance because they didn't spend enough time on the romance storyline. What I'm saying is that the romantic aspect of it isn't the main point of it in TLJ, even though it might be the point of their storyline in a future movie. It's an intentional choice to have a storyline that focuses on other things - on Finn's character development, mostly - while keeping the romantic hints (or elements) in the background. It has romantic elements but that's not the primary significance that it has in the context of the movie, or the primary emotional resonance.

If you think I'm arguing that there's no romance whatsoever, that is certainly not what I'm saying.

[(Anonymous)]

The secret objects to having a romance arc shoehorned into an action film if they're going to do a crappy job. That's a valid point. You saying it's not a romance storyline at all is demonstrably incorrect and a rather silly claim to make when the secret image is of two people kissing. The point you seem to be missing is that just because romance isn't the main focus doesn't mean there's no romantic storyline at all. There is. Movies can and often do have multiple storylines. TLJ definitely has multiple storylines. Finn and Rose and thir budding romance is one of those storylines.

If you think I'm arguing that there's no romance whatsoever, that is certainly not what I'm saying.

I know. Your argument makes even less sense - you're saying that romantic elements =/=romantic storylines. And you could be right...but in this case, the romantic elements absolutely add up to a storyline - not the ONLY storyline, but definitely a storyline.

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't shoehorn in a romance arc because there is no romance arc. At worst, you could say that they shoehorned in a kiss.

There's a storyline between Finn and Rose in the movie. And that storyline has romantic elements, but it's not primarily a romantic storyline - it's a story about Finn learning something about the universe and about himself. If you look at that storyline and grade it on whether or not it's a good romance, of course it looks terrible, because it's not trying to be a good romance.

It's not a romance story. The fact that Rose and Finn kiss, and might kiss more later, is fundamentally ancillary to the main thrust of their storyline in TLJ, and judging their storyline based on whether or not it succeeds at the kissing aspect is unfair because of that. That is my whole point here.