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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-08-19 04:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #4246 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4246 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-08-20 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think, fundamentally, that it's a great adventure plot with an extraneous kiss in it. And I agree that the kiss is bad! But I don't think that you should ignore the good adventure plot, and it seemed like OP was writing off the actual plot elements that were there, and instead just evaluating them on the fact that they weren't romance elements. The fact that the movie tempts people to understand the storyline through the lens of the kiss is a problem with the movie, especially because that absolutely isn't the way that the storyline is actually set up.

To my mind, it's not a badly done romance at all, it's a well-done adventure storyline with a kiss in it. And I don't think it's a semantic difference *at all*, it changes the whole way that you understand and view the storyline. OP seems like they're approaching it like the problem with the story was that it wasn't romantic enough, and I just don't think that's accurate to what happened in the movie. The way to fix the issue is not to have more romance. The way to fix that is to have less kiss.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-20 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're seriously reading this into the secret when it isn't there.

"What I hate is that this movie....seems to feel the need to include a romance in their action film, but they don't bother taking the time to write a decent one."

"the need to include a romance" and "not a decent one" are JOINTLY the problem. It could be fixed EITHER by better emotional development of the romance as a parallel or support to the adventure (which some movies can pull off! which some star wars movies have pulled off! YMMV by taste obviously).

"IF they're going to do it, at least do a good job, dammit..."

Nowhere in the secret does it say anything about the quality of the storyline otherwise. Because the secret's not about that! And TBH given the high pressure for four-factor appeal in blockbusters, they probably wouldn't be allowed to drop the romance element entirely. But I don't see anything in the secret that 1) denigrates the storyline in general or 2) would object to less kiss as the solution. It just sounds like they're resigned to kiss probably existing. And in that case it's perfectly reasonable to wish it were done better.