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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-11 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #584 ]


⌈ Secret Post #584 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
They aren't my preferences, though. I'm not sitting here telling you to never ever ever use the word "moist" because I find it disgusting. I'm telling you that use of the word "nigger" is offensive to a lot of people for a lot of reasons. And you know that it's an offensive word, because you've been defending your right to use it, which you wouldn't do if the word didn't have the connotations it does.
I'm not telling you that you can't use these words, either. I'm telling you that by using these words, you're contributing to the bullshit that POCs and homosexuals have to deal with - regardless of whether you belong to those groups or not. The only place my opinion enters into it is that I think you're a gigantic douche for calling people fags and thinking it doesn't mean much.


I am talking about language use on the internet, not in real life. They effect each other, yes, but they are two different things. This conversation is transient, and has no consequences for either of us. The same could not be said for real life.

I'm sorry, but are you fucking kidding me? You mean, because you aren't in danger of being punched in the face for calling a Black man a nigger, that it's okay? That because you calling someone a faggot isn't tied to your real life name and face, it doesn't matter? Is that actually the argument you're making here?

Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I've had similar discussions to this multiple times. I'm not defending my right to use these words - I believe I have that right already. I'm arguing against your belief that my connotations do not count simply because they're held (at this time) by the minority. It's a discussion, not a court case. At the end of the day, your opinion doesn't effect mine in the slightest - I got into it because I find the discussion of language on the internet interesting, not because I felt attacked.

I'm not saying it doesn't matter at all. I'm saying the consequences are nowhere near as great. In fact, in this situation, there are none at all for me. And yes, that effects my behaviour. I see no point in denying that - it's the basis for 'anonymous' becoming the beast that it has.

Out of curiosity, why do you keep capitalising black?

Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I never said that the connotations you're putting on these words aren't valid simply because they're connotations held by a minority. This is the way you think about these words, what they mean, and where they're appropriate to use. I don't agree, but my disagreement in no way should be read as me saying that you cannot hold those beliefs, and if I came across as saying that, then that's my bad. You can absolutely hold those beliefs, and I have no right whatsoever to tell you otherwise.

That said... you, my fellow Anon, are a tremendous douche.

Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, maybe. And I think you've got a stick up your arse the size of China. Nothing personal, obviously ♥

Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Of course not! How could it be personal? I'm Anon, and this is the internet - none of this is real.

Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
~matrix~